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Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby The hermit » Fri May 31, 2013 10:00 pm

I dont crave that much sugar when im out. I need something salty for lunch. Electrolytes? Sunflower seeds are a great addition when i have to ration my lunch supplies.



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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby sparky » Fri May 31, 2013 10:36 pm

there is nothing more delicious in my backpack than a cooked tortilla, but it requires a modified handheld grill thing. They are so good with just about anything on it
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby gary c. » Fri May 31, 2013 11:12 pm

sparky wrote:there is nothing more delicious in my backpack than a cooked tortilla, but it requires a modified handheld grill thing. They are so good with just about anything on it

AKA: a forked stick held over a campfire or even my Pocket Rocket if I have the extra fuel.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby strollinbones » Fri May 31, 2013 11:23 pm

Brilliant! It's an embarrassment of riches!
I am humbled by the ingenuity and subtlety of some of your solutions. I'm eager to choose!

I wish I could add some secret to this list, but I was the one who asked, so, no such luck. I guess my best indulgence in the backcountry is still the splash (or two) of Bailey's I drop into hot chocolate. Oh yes...

thanks to all!
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:47 am

How about moving this post to the food forum?

LOL. Crystal Lite after Hershey chocolate and peanut butter! Are you watching your waistline?

Depending on altitude and acclimation, you may want to cut back on fats. When first going to high altitude, fats can do a number on your digestion. My favorite lunch is dried fruit (particularly like dried apricots),jerky and a nutritionally balanced, low sugar trail bar. I particularly avoid sugar and candy as they seem to just raise my blood sugar and then lead to a "crash" in energy later. Drop a tea bag in your water bottle and in a few hours you have tea for a drink. My favorite is "Bengal Spice".
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby The hermit » Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:30 pm

Loose leaf yerba mate and jasmine green tea. My two faves. I got a plastic filter straw when i bought some tea online it weighs nothing and its really cool. I can even pick wild teas when i find them!
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby markskor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:19 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:LOL. Crystal Lite after Hershey chocolate and peanut butter! Are you watching your waistline?

Yes, this body is registered, a temple...of doom.
Wandering Daisy wrote:Depending on altitude and acclimation, you may want to cut back on fats. When first going to high altitude, fats can do a number on your digestion.

When first going to altitude, everything messes with digestion – Big Time! Altitude, exertion, changes in water, hip belt tension, sleeping arrangements, food choices, etc...All contribute. Why pick on the yummy fats? Those first days, you usually have to force yourself to drink and snack, you are not that hungry, and usually no matter how well you dine, nothing passes. YMMV. By day four, then things change…I plan for this.
Wandering Daisy wrote: My favorite lunch is dried fruit (particularly like dried apricots), jerky and a nutritionally balanced, low sugar trail bar.

Coincidentally, your lunch sounds a lot like my breakfasts...Dried apricots, cashews, beef jerky...everything except those "nutritionally balanced, low sugar trail bars". My rule of thumb, if it tastes like chitty cardboard down here, probably will not taste any better up there. Eat what tastes good. Besides, I hear that dark chocolate is slimming.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby DoyleWDonehoo » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:57 pm

I will tell of ALL my meals:
Breakfast: 2 single serving bags of Peach Oatmeal, Tea and Hot Chocolate.
Lunch: Custom mixed gorp, MOJO bar.
Snacks: Power gel, Cliff Blocks, power beans, Vita-C.
Dinner: Package of Noodles (the good kind from an Asian grocery store), Tea and Hot Chocolate.

If it is a longer trip (over 5 days) I might put in chicken crackers and meat sticks.

As you can see, I don't make a big production of meals. I am out there to hike and take pictures, not be some kind of gourmand. Its just fuel. Eat and run.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:18 pm

From
http://www.bodyresults.com/e2highaltitudenutrition.asp

“Fat, while tolerated relatively well in the cold at sea level, may not be as well tolerated in diets at high altitude… Although high-fat foods are energy dense and reduce the weight/calorie aspect of food carried on climbs, fat requires more oxygen for metabolism than carbohydrate and will place a small, but added burden upon the already overtaxed oxygen economy of the climber.”

It is has been a standard in mountaineering for years to reduce fat at high altitudes. That is not to say no fat, and a spoon of peanut butter is fine, but most people have digestion problems if they eat too much fat. I like my fats at dinnertime, not when I am walking and heavily exercising. But each person has his own unique belly. On the average, if you take out a lot of people climbing at higher altitudes, you have less altitude sickness if you eat more quality carbs vs fats. Quality carbs do not have to taste like cardboard. I find the Larabars quite tasty as well as MoJo bars.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby markskor » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:05 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:...people climbing at higher altitudes, you have less altitude sickness if you eat more quality carbs vs fats.

Well gosh...Having only been to a little over 20,000 feet...maybe just lucky then that the "added burden upon the already overtaxed oxygen economy" has never abated my copious enjoyment of local alpine surroundings.
Wandering Daisy wrote:Quality carbs do not have to taste like cardboard. I find the Larabars quite tasty as well as MoJo bars.

Totally agree about your, "each person has his/her own unique belly" comment...Whatever works for your's. Bought a assorted dozen Larabars (@ REI's 20% discount for buying a dozen sale) a few years back...tasted fine, initially.
BTW, still have 6 left...carried them for a whole summer too. Nobody would eat them.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:32 am

markskor- I am not trying to argue about your particular food experiences. I am just saying, if you sample 100 people, more than half will do better WHILE THEY ACCLIMATE (first few days), if they cut back on fats a bit. If someone has trouble with digestion while acclimating, it is worth it to try something different. I eat a fairly low fat diet normally, so my system does poorly on lots of fats, even at sea level! I agree that one becomes burned out on trail bars. That is why I take a variety and never eat more than one a day, if that.

Back to the original post and question. If you are doing a long trip and have to use a bear canister, you must also consider bulk and crushability. On a typical 10-day trip, I try to camp at a bear box the first night and then need to get everything else in the can. This is really tough! In order for the food to fit (and still have 2,500 calories per day), I have to choose low volume food. Crackers are out. Bread is out. Almonds pack down better than walnuts. FD pineapple resists crushing better than FD strawberries. I use regular oatmeal and cereals - they take less space (1/3 cup cereal for 1 cop water for regular vs 1/2 cup for instant). Yes, that is more fuel, but the fuel does not have to fit inside the bear can. The little meat sticks or cubed jerky pack better than the regular slices. Anything that has to be packed in a hard container packs less efficiently.

If you are doing a 2-3 day trip, then I see no reason you cannot essentially eat lunches similar to that you eat at home, if they do not require refrigeration. Bring an apple, carrots, avocado. Even on a long trip I will bring an avocado to eat the first day. Pack those crackers in a hard sided container so they do not become crumbs. I even pick up a deli sandwich on the drive to eat the first night (make sure they do not have real mayonnaise or eggs).

Lunch for me is not a big meal. I eat a moderate breakfast and large dinner and just munch all day, with only about 600 calories consumed for "lunch". I never really sit down and have lunch. I move better without a lot of food in my belly. If however, you do short travel days and spend half the day fishing, you will probably want more lunch goodies.
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Re: Backpacking lunches? (Enough salami and cheese on bagels!)

Postby rlown » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:37 am

those tuna packets with a squeeze of a mayo packet on a flour tortilla works well. heck, have two. and yes some black pepper. Oops.. forgot the relish packet as well.

Also the 1lb bag of white cheddar cheez-its and the jacks links jerky. and some dried figs, blueberries and cranberries.

Not sure i ever look at caloric intake. just eat when i'm hungry.
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