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Postby Windwalker » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:28 pm

Beautiful shot Doug!


Buck®- I got a chance to play with a 5D yesterday...they wouldn't let me take it for a test drive though :crybaby:
I wiped the drool off of it and gave it back.

Someday!



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Postby Snow Nymph » Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:33 am

Nice shot, Doug!
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Postby Buck Forester » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:07 pm

Suh-WEET image! That's what I like about the 20D, there is virtually no learning curve if you're used to shooting with a Canon EOS or Elan type of a camera.
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Postby AldeFarte » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:23 am

I love that focus from the forground into the distance. This new technology is amazing. I never have done much with a wide angle, but I have always been impressed by that look. I am just getting back into it with a basic little digital. I am impressed with how it makes everyone an expert. Wish I knew how to put it on the puter. My brother calls me a vidiot. I am what I am . jls
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Postby Shawn » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:35 pm

Well now you guys have me thinking about the 20D.

In the mean time I was brwosing Amazon looking for the 20D and came across this:

Canon EOS 1Ds Mark II 16.7MP Digital SLR Camera (Body Only)
List Price: $11,999.99
Price: $7,139.94
You Save: $4,860.05 (41%)

:eek: Holy smokes, save four grand?? This must be some knockout camera. Phoooey.

Anyway, back to reality......
What is a good "starter lens" for us newbies if indeed I cannot let go of my temptation?

TIA
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Postby doug395 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:20 pm

Hay Shawn, I’ve been looking for a 20D on ebay for awhile, always got out bid, so finally just bought a new one before the rebate ended. But if you end up getting a Canon digital body, the Canon 17-40 ”L” is the best lens you can get for the money. Rumor is Canon will be announcing a new upgraded 20D around March.
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Postby Hikin Mike » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:44 am

I've got the first gen Rebel (300D) and really love the 17-40 f/4L lens! I got my eye on the 70-200 f/2.8L IS, but with impending medical bills and general life expenses, I don't know if I'll be getting it any time soon.
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Postby Shawn » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:54 pm

Thank you for for the info guys.

I guess I should read up on the matter too. I've never owned an SLR or serious camera before so a lot of the terminology is greek to me. Looks like most lenses can cost as much as the camera. Just the same, after reading thru this and other threads, and seeing some of the great images - the temptation to splurge just gets greater and greater.

In the mean time I'm grateful for the tips.
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Postby Windwalker » Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:36 am

Shawn...much, much more in some cases :nod:

My next lens purchase....if I can ever save up enough dough will be the f/2.8 400mm IS "L" ($6,599) At least that's the plan.(with my 1.4x tele extender it would be a 560mm f/4....great setup for wildlife/birds) I'm going to have to do really, really well at photography for my wife to go along with that purchase though. LOL!

The 17-40mm f/4 L is very reasonable for an "L" class lens, very sharp and great for landscapes. The 1.6 crop factor of the 20D/350D/300D does
get in the way sometimes making the 17-40mm shoot more like a 27-64mm....that's why Buck doesn't like the smaller sensor.

If you choose to go with consumer grade lenses...I recomend buying primes (fixed focal length lenses) There are lots of inexpensive zooms out there and there is a reason they're cheap. Most are fairly sharp at the minimum focal length but lose much of their sharpness when fully zommed....there are tons of lens reviews on the web that bare this out.
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Postby Shawn » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:52 pm

Thanks WW. That's some great and specific information that'll help me learn to make better choices.

I like the comment about the wife's agreement to the new lens :p
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Postby AldeFarte » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:31 am

Shawn, I quit carrying an SLR years ago ,because of weight. Then I started carrying elcheapo 35mm just to record the dirty deeds. Last summer I saw what digital can do. Everyone is an expert at taking pictures. Instant grading of photos. I know little, but I promptly went out and picked up an HP 3x optical zoom that does a servicable job. Others can be more specific, but I think you should try for at least 3x optical for a starter in this format. Feather light. The book almost weighs more than the camera. You will be amazed ,but it ain't the same as a $1000 camera! However ,the tradeoffs are worthwhile for a neophyte. You will have to promptly upgrade to a bigger chip, most likely. And you can do all kinds of things with it and the computer ,of which I am totally ignorant. This may not be news to you, but maybe there are some other dinosaurs like me out there who will be helped by this new and "simple" technology. jls
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Postby Shawn » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:33 pm

Well you've pretty much nailed my dilema. I had planned to get myslef a new camera in the spring, but nothing on the order of the 20D (that is until I started reading here).

I currently carry a little Olympus with a 10X zoom. I know the quality isn't the best, but it doesn't weigh too much and if I ever lose the thing to a stream or mountain I won't be out too many dollars.

So...I have been debating between a more expensive and lighter digital snapshooter or the 20D. Really I want them both :D I think my wife would have other thoughts.

Thanks for the thoughts though; I'll get off the fence sooner or later.
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