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As someone who is new to Milky Way Shots I am looking for some suggestions. I'm heading up to Mt Whitney In a week or two and was thinking of taking my Sony A7 ii up with me to try and do some milky way shots. Since I used a lot of my play money getting this new rig I don't have the extra money to run out and buy a wide angle lens or prime lens right away so I'm making due with the •28-70mm lens that came with it. Based off of that information does anyone have any suggestions on what settings would make the most out of this set up for taking Milky Way Shots ( assuming that I even get clear skys ).

Thanks in advance for any advice.
Brad

sdhiker wrote:As someone who is new to Milky Way Shots I am looking for some suggestions. I'm heading up to Mt Whitney In a week or two and was thinking of taking my Sony A7 ii up with me to try and do some milky way shots. Since I used a lot of my play money getting this new rig I don't have the extra money to run out and buy a wide angle lens or prime lens right away so I'm making due with the •28-70mm lens that came with it. Based off of that information does anyone have any suggestions on what settings would make the most out of this set up for taking Milky Way Shots ( assuming that I even get clear skys ).

Thanks in advance for any advice.
Brad

calculator tells me:
Shutter Speed: 18 seconds
f/number: f/2.8
ISO: 3200


I suggest to just rent a Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 or the 24mm f/1.4 (or the equivalent "cine" lenses in case you don't have a Nikon or Canon adapter) - check lensrentals.com and weigh that against the cost of the whole trip. With the 14mm you should be able to expose twice as long as with the 28mm before getting blurred stars, while with the f/1.4 24mm you can really drop the ISO to something like 800 for a much cleaner image, because it collects so much more light.

But check the moon calendar first - even with clear skies, you don't want that bright ball of light in the sky when exposing for distant stars.

shooting with a zoom is a compromise - how sharp is that thing at f/2.8 - especially in the corners? 28mm isn't very wide either, but you probably will get something useful no matter what, as the sensor in that camera is very capable.

Hi Sdhiker,

Welcome to HST! The Samyang suggested by Fish is a good lens for star/astro, it is sharp, and it's coma is very good, even when compared to lens 4x the cost.
Please give us an intro: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9329

Thanks for the info guys. I was thinking about checking out that site LensRentals, what has been your experience renting from them before Fishmonger ? I checked out the moon calendar it doesn't look to bad, there still is some moon there but not a bright ball of light. The week after would even be better, but we can't all have what we want Eric if you would like me to throw a link onto my links page for the site, not a problem.

Thanks again.
Brad

lensrentals.com is my go-to place for anything I can't afford. The Rokinon/Samyang glass I usually own (not the 24mm as it is almost $750), but I'd hate to pay shipping that almost equals the rental fee. I use them for the $10,000 lenses, as I shoot motorsports now and then, but not enough to take out a mortgage to get the best glass for it.

Renting for hiking trips makes little sense for me, because I am usually out there for a month or more, and at that time only the most expensive lenses are a good deal as a rental. For weekend trips, though, if you live close to these places, I'd be renting any lens over $500 before actually buying it, just to make sure the lens actually is worth the investment.

borrowlenses.com has some followers, too, but I never tried them. Similar prices and selection. It's just that the main tech guy for Lensrentals posts on my photo forum, so I use his outfit.

Also - any moon will mess with the star photos. Even if it's just a sliver, it's way brighter than the stars. You need it to be down, so check moon rise/moon set calendar for your dates. It may require getting up super early.

Here's a full moon night star sky from last year, below Bishop Pass - not much of the night sky visible other than that "super moon" that turned the night into day, at least for my camera

f/4.0 20 seconds ISO 1600 with the 16mm f/3.5 AI fisheye - about 3am in the morning

Moonlight over Bishop Creek

@sdhiker - please, and thank you!

Well I've now taken my first Milky Way shots on my trip up to Mt Whitney. It was a learning experience. I need to learn my camera a little better, and a nice wide angle lens would not hurt. Has anyone used the Rokinon 14mm ultra wide lens http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-E-U ... B00HAF167Y, and if so what was your impression of it, especially if using it on a Sony A7 series.

Mt Whitney Trail Camp with the Milky Way by Brad Spiess, on Flickr
My tent lit up while looking towards Mt Whitney and the Milky Way

Trail Camp at Mt Whitney with the Milky Way by Brad Spiess, on Flickr
Milky Way Over Mt Whitney at the Trail Camp

1st milky way shot by Brad Spiess, on Flickr
Milky Way at the Alabama Hills near Mt Whitney

Great shots everyone! I'm headed up to the Whites this weekend to do some hiking and car camping and I hope to get some good milky way shots once the moon sets on Saturday night. I should hopefully get some bonus meteors from the Delta-Aquarid meteor shower in the frame as well since that showers radiant is in the southern skies.

sdhiker wrote:Well I've now taken my first Milky Way shots on my trip up to Mt Whitney. It was a learning experience. I need to learn my camera a little better, and a nice wide angle lens would not hurt. Has anyone used the Rokinon 14mm ultra wide lens http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-E-U ... B00HAF167Y, and if so what was your impression of it, especially if using it on a Sony A7 series.

greatest value on a wide angle lens out there

outpost camp in April 2013 - no milky way, though. just lots of snow and moonlight. This is on a D600 and I really should process those files once more, as I have a better understanding how to do this now.



note, Rokinon, Samyang, Bower and a few other brands are all the very same lens.




see how it does in this comparison with far more expensive glass:

http://3d-kraft.com/index.php%3Foption% ... Itemid%3D2

and for astro photography in particular this review

http://www.lonelyspeck.com/rokinon-14mm-f2-8-review/

the same site also reviews the 24mm f/1.4, which may be one of the very best lenses for night skies, but it costs more than twice as much compared to the 14mm
http://www.lonelyspeck.com/rokinon-24mm ... mc-review/

Thanks for the info fishmonger, the more I read the more I come to understand that its such a great value, you just have to have some patience and make sure you get a good copy of the lens. I'm excited to order this lens and give it a try. I would primarily would use it for landscapes while hiking and astrophotography and this lens seems like a perfect fit, especially for my small wallet.