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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby rlown » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:34 pm

LMBSGV wrote:I always carry a spare pair of eyeglasses since I’m so nearsighted (20-200+ in each eye). I would be in rather dire straits if mine broke. I think I could manage to follow a trail without glasses, but off-trail travel would probably result in a serious accident. I’ve never had to use the spare though one time I thought I might when one of the lenses popped out as I was hiking. Immediately I stopped, got down on my knees and found the lens by the side of the trail. I used the tweezers on the Swiss Army knife to retighten the screw on the glasses frame so the lens wouldn’t pop out again.


I carry prescription eyeglasses as well as a spare. I'm also nearsighted. I also keep a 3rd backup pair in the truck.

A few years ago, I was at Puppet. I sometimes take off my glasses to tie on lures. Guess I was tired because I set my glasses down on the ground rather than on the daypack. The knot was problematic, and my back hurt from throwing lures all morning, so I stood up mid-knot and turned a bit, and there was an odd crunch. Stepped right on them and it broke at the screw.

My back-ups were bifocals, so i spent a good deal of time readjusting to why my legs suddenly appeared shorter. It took a couple hours to get used to it. Even if not needed, the spares come along.



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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby RoguePhotonic » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:27 pm

Nothing I carry is dead weight. The closest I come to that idea is the things you bring and might never use them. Such as a first aid kit and a small gear repair kit. Although both I have used.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby freestone » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:28 pm

The spare tire residing around my waist for starters. :rolleyes: I also carry the Light My Fire Mora knife, which is "clutch" as far as knives go and it even has a sparker, but I always wind up using a pair of orthopedic scissors for cutting and a book of matches to start the stove.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby dave54 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:38 pm

sparky wrote:...I dont believe in gun control, but carrying a .357 or any gun in the sierra is just strange...


I only occasionally feel the need to carry a firearm on the trail, but in the last 10 years or so I used a firearm in the backcountry (2x) more than a first aid kit.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby TahoeJeff » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:07 pm

I used a firearm in the backcountry


Aw c'mon Dave, inquiring minds want to know; give us the scoop/details on why you had to use a fire arm in the backcountry. I'm not trying to stir anything up, I'm just genuinely curious. (maybe this needs its own thread?)
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby rlown » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:41 pm

guess I'd like to know as well. The smallest snubnose 357 might weigh 12oz, but it's inaccurate and each bullet weighs an ounce at least.

I have carried a Rifle and hunting pistol before, but that was in Trinity during hunting season. The Rifle and the 7 bullets weighed over 9lbs, not including the makeshift sling to carry it on the pack. The 44 pistol weighed over 6lbs with 6 rounds. I carried the pistol and a friend carried the rifle.

I did carry a S&W 686 4" before in Emigrant. Not sure why, but I did. Truly dead weight. I was young.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby bluefish » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:09 am

I'd like to hear why the discharges, too. I don't have a negative opinion, just find it interesting. I know on one trip up a canyon of the Encampment River in Wyoming I was freaked by the ledges we walked under and the number of mule deer bone and hair piles we kept encountering. I know gun shot reports can carry enormous distances; far more than a whistle or shouting can.
Another piece of gear I seem to overcarry on is tarps/raingear. This may come from my early experiences as a teen and student that loved the outdoors , but was pretty well broke most of the time. I had a lot of wet, physically miserable trips, lacking in equipment. I now seem to go way out of the way to have dry, comfortable rain gear and shelters. We use pack covers, have a groundcloth for the entrance of the tent, and a tarp for shelter we can set up to cook/hang under in rain, besides personal rain gear.


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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby dave54 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:47 pm

TahoeJeff wrote:
I used a firearm in the backcountry


Aw c'mon Dave, inquiring minds want to know; give us the scoop/details on why you had to use a fire arm in the backcountry. I'm not trying to stir anything up, I'm just genuinely curious. (maybe this needs its own thread?)


Nothing quite so melodramatic. The first time my wife and I were in our RV out in the woods, and a persistent black bear kept coming around. The usual methods of chasing him off (yelling, waving arms, and throwing pine cones) were unsuccessful. A couple of rounds in the dirt in front of him finally convinced him to leave.

The second time was just precautionary. My wife and I were returning from a day hike, and as we approached the trailhead we saw a couple of guys nosing around my pickup. We were the only vehicle parked there. They were looking in the windows and trying the doors. As we approached I yelled at them, words to the effect "That is my truck". They said they were admiring it (it was new) and were thinking of buying one (yeah, right). I confronted them about trying the doors and they denied it, of course. They way they were eying us it was obvious they were sizing us up. My wife was beside and little bit behind me, and I saw her reach her hand behind her back. Her day pack has a concealed carry compartment and that day she had carried her revolver. All of a sudden, the two guys backed off and mumbled something have a nice day, jumped in their truck and drove off. My wife had the gun half withdrawn with her hand on the grip.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby TahoeJeff » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:32 pm

Thanks for the details Dave. I thought you meant you had to use a firearm backpacking. I'll admit, 15 or so years ago I used to haul a Bersa 380 (Walther PPK knock off) around in my backpack. After a year or two I decided it was dead weight, and have left it home ever since.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby sparky » Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:12 pm

I didnt read the original post right. The only thing I carry now that is a little redundent is a water resistent jacket and a water tight poncho.

I have only needed the poncho a couple times, but it makes a nice groundcloth or shade.....it is at the top of my pack. When I stop, it comes out first and so I have a nice spot to spread out.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby FeetFirst » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:07 am

Sea to Summit Ultra-sil dry sack (1.6 ounces) for my down sleeping bag. Even though I've dealt with some iffy water crossings and quite a few thunder storms, I've never had water inside my pack.

Light my fire mini firesteel (1 ounce). The trusty Bic has never failed.

ACR emergency whistle (0.2 ounce).

50' 2mm Dyneema/Dacron hybrid solid braid cord (1.5 ounces).

Back-flush syringe for Sawyer Squeeze water filter (>.1 ounce).

First Aid Kit (3.5 ounces).

Sewing needle and small length of nylon thread (>.1 ounce).

Benchmade mini griptilian locking folder knife (2.5 ounces). While I have used this on trips a small pair of scissors would have worked much better. I should replace this with the small classic swiss army knife and save an ounce (knife, file, scissors, toothpick, and tweezers).
I'm still rather convinced that you can achieve more than you've ever dreamed of if you just lower your standards.
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Re: Dead Weight Items

Postby TRAUMAhead » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:52 pm

Extra mini Bic lighter (0.40 oz) and 2 extra titanium needle stakes (0.44 oz).

+1 for spare eyeglasses, or maybe superglue. I actually had an incident a year or two ago where my frame broke near the middle. I was out on a week long, backpack in, trail maintenance project. Surprisingly managed to tape it together good enough to hold the lens.

Forgot they were still on my desk, here's a picture of the hackjob. :lol:
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