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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby Jimr » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:52 am

I hike with "The most interesting man in the world". Mosquitoes refuse to bite just out of respect.

When not hiking with TMIMITW, I use long clothing and Jungle Juice. When in a tee shirt, I put the deet on the shirt as well because tee shirts are no deterrent for the little flying hypodermics. I normally travel high, but this year is different. Tehipite Valley is low and hot, so long everything is not an all day desire. I guess I may be bathing in deet this year.

I've had a mosquito net for years. It's been on my head once. I use it to keep my frying pan from being scratched while hiking.

I had a buddy years ago who got the bright idea to wear his long johns under his shorts and tee shirt to avoid being speared. Guess how well that worked!!!
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby ulu » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:30 am

Headnet and jungle juice. Already had dengue once, and don't want to go through that again.
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby no2haven » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:53 am

Jimr wrote:I hike with "The most interesting man in the world". Mosquitoes refuse to bite just out of respect.


I take a similar approach but through a different method of action - my gf has proven so irresistible to mosquitoes that they fly right past me to land on her. Its similar to the oldest technique of dealing with bears - just run faster than the other people you're hiking with! :D

When she's not around, long pants/shirts and a hat work well. If you have thin spots, just DEET/spray those. If your pants are loose at the ankles, tuck them into your socks when you stop.
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby oldranger » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:30 am

Maverick reminded me in a pm the Tehipite Tom tends to attract skeeters to the extent that he draws them away from others. Happy he will be along on my next trip! Note that I'd be happy he'd be along even if he didn't attract skeeters away from me.

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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby badfishgood » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:08 pm

Picaridin treated long sleeves, long pants. A poly t shirt under the long sleeves. Hat and head net. Usually that'll stop the skeeters from getting me through my clothes. If things are really bad, rain jacket/rain pants/head net. :lol:
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby SSSdave » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:11 pm

One thing most backcountry users obviously are not aware of is how dramatically differnt the concentration of mosquitoes can be over short distances due to landscapes squeetoes avoid and landscapes they seek. Oh sure everyone is aware that as soon as a trail meets a creek with all its vegetation, there are going to be more squeeters there but what few seem to grasp is how little distance from said creek, wet meadow, damp forest full of labrador tea and ferns, or swamp one might go and hardly see any. We know the kind of places they seek of course because that is where 95% of backpackers also make their camps. Oh yeah 100.001 feet from lake edges and streams down below nice shady trees out of the wind. Great camping places for mid August most years. But poor choices during squeeter season.

As WD said one strategy is to find a windy ridge. Well if it is mid day in the sunny Sierra an even more available solution especially down in a canyon where most of us tend to find ourselse at, is to find a sizeable bedrock area that has few trees. Midday mosquitoes avoid such areas with all the warm dry sun absorbed rocks like we would walking into the Sahara Desert. At the scale of a tiny mosquito unlike we giant creatures, 100 feet of bright granite bedrodk midday is a vast hot hell. So one can be just 100 feet away from a densely infected lodgepole pine fern swamp out on bright granite bedrock midday, laying back under a lone Sierra juniper butt nekid with sunglasses on, sipping some fresh snowmelt water, just a few minutes after jumping in the lake after reaching your destination, without a worry. But keep in mind that after mid afternoon passes, especially if breezes are weak or waning, very hungry mosquitoes will increasingly visit all those areas especially during the last hour of light.

So IF one camps at such a location, make your main dinner early even mid day and have plans to be INSIDE your tent most of the time late afternoon. So how dow one know where these bedrock areas be? Topo map plus satellite image. badfishgood just mentioned Clark Lakes in his post that I have visited a few times during squeeter season. We never camp by the lakes where all the well worn campsite are right next to the fishing. Instead we camp in that zone nearby on a bench with a view. But here is an alternative example:

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=36.60523,-118.73714&z=15&t=T

The map crosshairs are on the barren ridge southwest of the Clark Lakes Not an ideal place because the barren zone is limited but maybe the best in that zone. Certainly a spot likely to catch more of a breeze coming UP the canyon as is the usual direction. So what does that area really look like? Well see the acme map site has other map tabs. Select the Hybrid tab that brings one to:

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.73358,-119.15140&z=18&t=S

The Satellite view. Now magnify + three times. See all those snow banks? That is where the terrain drops off beyond the brief flat bench thus where winters snows drift and last longer. See those scattered trees? That is about where the terrain drops off steeply to the south. Between those trees and the snow fields is a wise place to camp in squeeter season and likely the better spot is next to one of those trees where the tree debris over decades has filled in making more level spots. So before one's trip, do some of this map and satellite homework.

And ah how did the butt nekid guy manage to jump in said nearby lake without getting sucked dry by the vampires? OK here goes one of my secrets...RAIN CLOTHES. Like that coated nylon jacket and pants buried down in your pack. So go out into the Sahara Desert to the lone juniper, and out there in the middle of the sunny day take off all your grubby sweaty trail clothes, put on your rain gear. Then wait for a thunderstorm to come? Nope. Hey you, don't forget to put the rain hood on. Now go down to the lake and jump into the cold lake with the rain suit on. The quicker one jumps back out of the cold water, the better. Maybe even pull down those rain trousers briefly to moon a trout if that helps get your funky stuff clean. Then go back to the lone juniper. And then wait for a thunderstorm to come by? Nope. The rain stuff of course is going to dry out very fast in the mid day sun. So take off your suit and lay it out on the rocks. And you are going to feel way better sitting under that juniper.
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby rlown » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:29 pm

probably shouldn't get to anal about it.. you cover up appropriately for the conditions. Seems pretty clear from the responses.. If they bug you too much, don't go now.
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby kpeter » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:38 pm

I've taken to wearing long nylon pants and longsleeved nylon shirt in all conditions--for sun protection first and foremost, but also for mosquitoes and brush. I impregnate these with permithrin once a season. Then I use small amounts of deet for exposed skin and an over-the-hat net in camp.

A couple of years ago I listened to an entomologist who specialized in mosquitoes explain our allergic reactions to them. As a general rule, we are all allergic to each new species and subspecies we encounter, but the more often we are bitten the less our reaction to that particular variety. Since there are thousands of species and subspecies most of the time we will be encountering a new variety. But if you go back to the same lake year after year you may find that the bites become increasingly less irritating. Walk over the pass to a new lake and the bites may swell.
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby quentinc » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:45 pm

Kpeter, that's very interesting.
I have the good fortune not to develop any reaction to any mosquito bites in the Sierra. I did get itchy bumps when I lived in NJ, but I never do now. They still hurt though!
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby mshields » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:57 pm

I will be hiking the High Sierra Trail in a few weeks? Could anybody give me some recommendations on long sleeve shirts (brand/make) that they have had luck with? I have never worn long sleeve shirts in the past, but after reading all these vampire stories I think I need to add to the wardrobe!!!
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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby oldranger » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:34 am

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I just get whatever is synthetic and on sale and do what kpeter does to his gear. One other thing I do is that when it is warm I take my shirt off and dip the arms and top 1/2 of the shirt into water whenever I pass a water source. I can do this right up to about 3 in the afternoon and have the shirt dry when things cool off. This turns a heat retainer into an evaporative cooler. Putting the wet shirt on is a real wakeup, too. I don't get the bottom half wet because the excess moisture in my shorts/pants causes nasty chafing.

Unless I am hiking in really low elevations (Hetch Hetchy, Merced Lake to Valley) I don't even take a shortsleve shirt.

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Re: What Will Be Your Mosquito Avoidance Techniques in 2012?

Postby Wandering Daisy » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:52 am

I find that very loose fit on a shirt is best. If the shirt cloth is tight on your skin, the skeets bite through it. I hate those vent back panels - I usually sew them shut. Skeets can get inside and bite through the netting meaterial. And the arm slits at the cuffs offer entry to mosquitoes. Be sure to put some DEET on your arms next to the slits. I also find that a shirt alone is not enough - I wear a T-shirt under the long sleeve shirt. It does get hot at times.

If you wet the shirt, just dip it in water and wring it out AWAY from the water. Home treated Permethian clothing will leak the insecticide into the water - not good for the fish.

They sell netting clothing. A friend tried them years ago and it did not work. He quickly tore holes in the netting and just from moving in the shirt, the material would get tight against his skin and the skeet would quickly bite. They may work if you are fishing or sitting around camp, but are not that helpful on the trail.
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