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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby oldranger » Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:37 pm

Russ,

the problem was in the internal flapper valve that prevents air from leaking. I learned to check it to make sure it was flush with the orifice. The Exped Downmat UL worked flawlessly for the remainder of that trip and on Markskor's and my 19 day trip in Yosemite. With my arthritic shoulders it is the only pad this old fart can get a decent sleep on.

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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby freestone » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:48 pm

Another design change coming for the Exped UL down mat to make it lighter.

www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-news/kors-20 ... 936-7.html
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby Flux » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:54 pm

Just spent 6 nights on the Thermarest X-lite.

Pros:
Comfy - as good as I have ever slept on camping of any sort, nice and thick. Lateral channels adjust to hips very well. I even let some air out to soften it up.
Warm - not a cold trip (40 for the low), but never a cold spot
Big - I got the big size and at 1lb, my whole body is on there no problem
Silent - this thing does NOT sound like a bag of potato chips at all, pretty darn quiet.
Small - packs up tiny, about like a 1l bottle.
Sticky - they put some kind of silicone in the material and you stick to it pretty good. Minimal slide around and waking up off the mat.

Neither Pro Nor Con:
You need a ground cloth and to pick your site well. Should not be an issue. i slept on decomposed granite without issue with a sil-nylon bottomed tent. I would just be careful with the durability.

Pricey, but you get what you pay for. This is an ultralight mat that is very plush.

Cons:
I already have moisture in there from blowing it up. I may contact thermarest to see if there is a trick to removing it. Long term it may end up weighing more. A sack pump might help this, but that's more weight.

You do have to be careful with it.

Hopefully it stands the test of time.
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby fishmonger » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:49 pm

freestone wrote:Another design change coming for the Exped UL down mat to make it lighter.

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-news/ ... 936-7.html


just got a UL 7 LW - taking it on the trail in about two weeks. first tests in the house were very promising. Most comfortable pad I ever had, and it blows up very quickly with the "shnozzle bag"

thin material, but that's what makes it light, not just the drop of the complicated built-in pump
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby quentinc » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:13 pm

oldranger wrote:Russ,

the problem was in the internal flapper valve that prevents air from leaking. I learned to check it to make sure it was flush with the orifice. Mike


I just got one too, and that internal flapper valve makes me nervous. I had the same problem with it on the 2nd use, which leads me to wonder how long before it's no longer an easy fix. There's something very awkward about clamping the valve seal onto the valve. The pad sure is comfortable though, and folds up nice and small.

I bought the smallest inflation pump to try to save on weight and regret it. It takes forever to inflate with that thing -- I think I'll try the pillow pump instead.
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby oldranger » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:33 pm

Q...

I've done about 20 nights since the "malfunction" with no problems. Heading out for 6 more nights in the Eaglecap Wilderness in a few more days.

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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby quentinc » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:10 am

Thanks Mike, that's good to know. Mine survived my just completed 8 day trip over Taboose, although each time I tried to scrunch the seal over the valve after inflating it, I said a little prayer.
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby 87TT » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:09 pm

Just got back from 5 day trip with the Exped Symat UL7. Lets just say if I say how much I love it one more time, my wife is going to beat the snot out of me.
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New sleeping pad

Postby ironmike » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:26 pm

Is anyone using pads (ensolite or otherwise), or does everyone just throw the Expeds down directly on their tent floor or ground cover?
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby gary c. » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:39 pm

Flux, I'm really happy to hear that you didn't think that noise is such a big deal with your NeoAir X-Lite. I 'm waiting for mine to be delivered and ever since I've ordered it I've had second thoughts because of some of the reviews. For anyone else that is thinking about buying a Thermarest NeoAir E-Lite pad Campmore has a heck of a deal right now for what they are calling a "Irregular". The site says they are irregular because of color inconsistancies and are still covered by the Mfg Lifetime Warrantee.
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby TRAUMAhead » Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:51 am

ironmike wrote:Is anyone using pads (ensolite or otherwise), or does everyone just throw the Expeds down directly on their tent floor or ground cover?
When I had my Tarptent Moment, I put my Exped Synmat UL7 straight on the tent floor, no groundsheet underneath the tent. Made sure to clear rocks/etc. under the tent first though.

Tried the Wallyworld blue pad, Thermarest Z Lite, Big Agnes Air Core, Exped Synmat UL 7, Big 5 black pad (in that order). I'd say the Air Core and Synmat UL7 were similar in comfort. There was a point in time when I was carrying both the Wallyworld pad and Z lite and stacking them, only to find it wasn't more comfortable. :lol: Before I knew about R values, I had a few trips where I slept cold in about 40* weather in a 20* bag with the Air Core and though I needed a warmer bag. I hated inflating/deflating the air pads, so I went back to foam, but I remembered why I switched in the first place, woke up too sore. Amazon has the orange Thermarest Prolites in regular size for $60 right now, Prime eligible, so I'm gonna try it out.
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Re: New sleeping pad

Postby 87TT » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:53 am

ironmike wrote:Is anyone using pads (ensolite or otherwise), or does everyone just throw the Expeds down directly on their tent floor or ground cover?

My wife has had her Exped downmat 9 for a few years and I just broke down and got the Synmat UL7. We have never put anything under the mats but the tent floor.
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