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Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:55 pm

This week's stove is the Caldera Cone with 10-12 alcohol burner from Trail Designs.
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The Caldera Cone with 10-12 burner is a stable, efficient, and wind resistant ultralight alcohol system that packs well inside a standard Ziploc container that doubles as a bowl.

Packed:
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Unpacked:
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Believe it or not, everything in the second photo is also present in the first.

I've written a review which is now available on Seattle Backpackers Magazine and there's a supplemental post with further information on my blog. Both can be accessed via this link.

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:32 pm

I just added some more photos and a technical appendix listing weights to the blog post.

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:02 pm

I used an ordinary 8oz "bottled water" bottle to hold my alcohol; you can see it in the photos. The problem with using a drink bottle of course is that someone might unknowingly take a drink.

I saw this photo on the web:
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The two flattened type bottles fit in together, but it's unlikely that anyone would confuse them with drink bottles. You'd have capacity and safety at the same time.

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby freestone » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Just ordered one of these for the Mini Trangia pot. Since I have more pots on my backpacking storage shelve than is in the kitchen cupboard, I was glad to see they make their cones to fit a wide range of manufacturers. :thumbsup: I chose the Trangia because that kit lacks a decent windscreen and the pot is aluminum. I have been disappointed with boiling performance with Trangia titanium pots to date and the Mini series in general especially in the ever breezy alpine High Sierra.
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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:56 am

freestone wrote:Just ordered one of these for the Mini Trangia pot. Since I have more pots on my backpacking storage shelve than is in the kitchen cupboard, I was glad to see they make their cones to fit a wide range of manufacturers. :thumbsup: I chose the Trangia because that kit lacks a decent windscreen and the pot is aluminum. I have been disappointed with boiling performance with Trangia titanium pots to date and the Mini series in general especially in the ever breezy alpine High Sierra.

Interesting. I knew they made cones for a variety of pots, but I wasn't aware that the mini Trangia pot was one of them. Sounds like it would be a good choice.

If you have a chance, post a photo of your set up once you get it.

I think you'll like it. I've found the Caldera Cone to be very stable and very windproof. It's nice not to have to carry a separate pot stand too.

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby Bluewater » Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:58 pm

This is my first HST post so please bear with me if I make any newbie tech mistakes.

I used the Caldera Keg - F on the JMT this summer and it was amazing. Even during windy coffee breaks on top of Mather Pass it was stable and boiled water quickly. I've had a couple of leaks in the Fosters can but no problems with the cone. With the Caldera Cady it's a whole kitchen settup at around 6 ozs. Nice.
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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:06 pm

Yeah, it's a nice set up with a very efficient burner -- and it's reliable even in wind. I'm pretty happy with mine.

What kind of problems did you have with your Foster's can and what did you do to fix them? Pine sap? :wink:

I have (and this is just me) kind of moved away from beer can-as-a-pot type cooking. I was worried about stability and creases in the can turning into leaks. I went with a titanium 0.85L MSR kettle. Heavier than a beer can, but pretty light and pretty strong.

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby Bluewater » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:21 pm

My Fosters can started to crack slightly in a few places where it is creased about 1/3 of the way from the top. I used aluminum tape along the circumfrence of the inside to add strength and seal it completely. It seems to be working well now. I got the Caldera Keg - F to go as light as possible but I think it may be time to try a cone for my 550 ml titanium mug (from TiGoat, with handles and the carbon fiber lid). Eventually the better functionality of a titanium mug or kettle may win out over lighter weight can . . .

The MSR kettle seems to be really popular. Is the 0.85L size enough to boil water for two people?

BTW, I like your stove web site/blog. I've never seen a site so thoroughly dedicated to stoves, awesome!
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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:32 pm

Bluewater wrote:The MSR kettle seems to be really popular. Is the 0.85L size enough to boil water for two people?
Yeah, it's big enough for two. A little tight, but if you plan what you're cooking well, it's fine. Just don't expect your hot drinks and your hot meal to be at exactly the same time. With two people, you have to stagger things a bit, and you have to pick things that aren't too water intensive.

Bluewater wrote:BTW, I like your stove web site/blog. I've never seen a site so thoroughly dedicated to stoves, awesome!
It's just that no one has been crazy, er, dedicated enough to do it before. :wink:

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby Bluewater » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:47 am

Cool, I'm going to try the Caldera Cone w/ the larger pot for a 2 person cookset. I've been using a Monatach Gnat canister stove and the pot from a GSI Dualist and it's a little bulky and probably heavy (although I haven't weighed it).

Here's a Caldera Volcano:

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Caldera Volcano


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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby hikin_jim » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:10 pm

WHAT exactly is that?

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Re: Stove of the Week: The Caldera Cone

Postby Bluewater » Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:01 pm

It's a Caldera Cone after an accidental fuel spill. A good example of how not to use a Caldera Cone. . .

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