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New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:53 am
by hikin_jim
MSR is putting out some new takes on some of it's most venerable stoves. New Stoves from MSR.

The MSR MicroRocket:
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The MSR Whisperlite Universal:
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They're also putting out an improved Windpro, the Windpro II (see blog post) which basically now comes with a canister stand so you can more easily run with the canister upside down for cold weather operation. The Windpro II's coupler also rotates, making it easier to invert the canister.

Supposedly, MSR is making some improvements to the Whisperlite Internationale, but I don't have any details.

HJ

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:56 am
by hikin_jim
I did some tests on the Whisperlite Universal on kerosene last night. Ran well although it didn't even come close to simmering on kerosene (not that I expected it to).

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HJ

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:40 am
by Carne_DelMuerto
Thanks for the link. I may pick up one of those Micro Rockets.

I have a Whisperlite for group trips and a Cat Can stove I built, but thought a Pocket Rocket would be a good item to have for a quick 2 or 3-person trip—that Micro Rocket is a nice update.

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:24 am
by hikin_jim
Carne_DelMuerto wrote:that Micro Rocket is a nice update.
That's my take on these three new stoves. Nothing earth shattering, but nice refinements on all three.

If I were considering a Pocket Rocket, I'd definitely hold out for the MicroRocket which is supposed to be available starting in January.

HJ

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:05 am
by markskor
Jim,
Any idea when the new WindPro (w/ tilt elbow and inverted plastic stand) will be hitting the stores?

BTW, Thanks for doing all this work for us on stoves. Glad you are here.
Any chance though you can include some mention of HST on your site too?
Reciprocity always appreciated.
Mark

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:53 pm
by hikin_jim
markskor wrote:Jim,
Any idea when the new WindPro (w/ tilt elbow and inverted plastic stand) will be hitting the stores?
Mark, according to MSR, the new stoves should be available in January. I get the impression that the schedule is still a little tentative.

I like very much the idea of the Windpro being refined such that the coupler rotates easily. However, the fuel line is so flexible that you can use them in inverted mode as they are now.
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If I were thinking about getting one, I might hold off and wait for the new one. Then again, you might be able to get an old one for cheaper since there's a new version out.
markskor wrote:BTW, Thanks for doing all this work for us on stoves. Glad you are here.
Any chance though you can include some mention of HST on your site too?
Reciprocity always appreciated.
Mark
Reciprocity granted. :) Check my site later this evening (Pacific time).

HJ

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:50 pm
by Flux
I flip the can on my windpro on those cold mornings, seems to work just fine although one needs to be careful not to flip the stove from the torque on the line.

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:23 pm
by hikin_jim
Flux wrote:I flip the can on my windpro on those cold mornings, seems to work just fine although one needs to be careful not to flip the stove from the torque on the line.
Yes, that's a good technique. Should allow you to operate about 20 degrees Fahrenheit colder than in the upright position. Definitely gotta watch it that you don't flip the pot over! I usually press down on the pot with my hand when I flip the canister. It's also a good idea to turn the stove down low before you flip the canister.

HJ

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:15 am
by Flux
I like the way it gurgles and spits when you flip it over and are getting liquid fuel to the stove. That's a nice advantage to the remote canister stoves compared to the can top stoves.

I do think the windpro is a really good piece. Light, remote canister, & a nice big flame head.

Re: New Stoves from MSR

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:45 pm
by hikin_jim
Flux wrote:I do think the windpro is a really good piece. Light, remote canister, & a nice big flame head.
Actually, and this may sound weird but here goes, the Windpro is my favorite MSR stove -- and I've got a pretty good set of MSR stoves that I've picked up over the years. It's pretty light and compact. Yes, it's not as light and compact as something like a PocketRocket, but a Windpro will handle wind much better since you can use a full windscreen without blowing up the stove, and the Windpro will handle much bigger pots without dumping your dinner. I also of course like that the Windpro will operate in much colder temperatures than even an MSR Reactor (although the Reactor is faster and more windproof).

The Windpro is just a really good balance of characteristics plus it's got the convenience of gas.

HJ