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Re: Bearikade or Ursack

Postby Wandering Daisy » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:03 am

rlown- I am glad there is no uniform state-wide poilcy. Bear cannisters should only be required where they are actually needed. Although expensive, I have solved this problem by having both a Ursack and Bearikade. Sometimes I use one, sometimes the other, and sometimes both! I draw the line at carrying TWO cannisters- on very long trips I put excess food and bulky food and smelly non-food items in the Ursack. Wouldn't it be great if there were "bear can pick up and drop off" stations along trails. You come to a bear can area - swipe your credit card (on a solar powered reader), out pops a bear can (like a big vending machine), you use it, when out of the area- drop the can in a slot, swipe your card and go on your way. (I know there are lots of practical problems with this concept, but you get the idea).

The non-uniform policy that I find annoying is that regulations are "dropped" or ignored for thru-hikers. If a can is needed, it is needed by everyone!

I would also like to see a lot more research happening on inventing a better bear-proof container. There sure is a lack of choice right now and all are expensive because the development and testing is so difficult for small manufacturers. Certainly some bright person could figure out something better than the rigid, heavy, hard-sided container concept.



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Re: Bearikade or Ursack

Postby SPeacock » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:02 am

On another board it was discovered that some bear canisters, including Bearikade, were not on an approved list. Bearikades response was (3/31/2011)

" I'm happy to say that our demand is very heavy and we do not have staff to keep track of each and every ad hoc committee creating test standards. There is no coordinated NPS, US Fish & Wildlife, US Forest Service effort to qualify portable food canisters. Two ad hoc committees have been active for a number of years: Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group and IGBC. We are approved by SIBBG. This group uses the very machines built by IGBC for drop testing. They follow this test by exposure to 950 lb. Grizzly Bears. Finally they use Black Bears and if the candidate canister passes all of these tests, they are allowed into the field for a one year trial. SIBBG and IGBC should work out a reciprocity agreement since they share identical criteria.

"We are enjoying our 13th season without loss of food to any wild animal. Bearikades are made in custom sizes from 8" tall to 18" tall to suit specific needs of our backpacking population. All are 9" in diameter to prevent bears from getting their jaws around the cylinder. We cut lengths in 1/8" tolerances and so the variety is virtually infinite. We have no plans for further testing of the Bearikades which have a sterling field record all over North America and the Northern Coast of Greenland. "

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Re: Bearikade or Ursack

Postby LMBSGV » Wed May 11, 2011 9:53 am

Ursack lost in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday: "Mill Valley man battles parks officials over his bear-resistant container"

http://www.marinij.com/business/ci_1803 ... arinij.com
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