Alcohol Stoves

[vandman]

That Whitebox looks very interesting. Does it need a pot stand?

My Trangia consumes 3/4 of an ounce per 2 cups of water. I drink a lot of coffee, so I use 3 ounces of hardware store denatured alcohol a day. Without the coffee, I would consume only one ounce a day. The weight difference between cannister and alcohol stoves is not much really, except that you can find the alcohol almost anywhere in the world, and as you use up the alcohol, you only have to carry out a reusable plastic bottle, instead of a dead metallic cannister. Alcohol is greener.

[AlmostThere]

The Whitebox is the pot stand.

You can also stand on it. I appreciate things that survive me.

[TahoeJeff]

AlmostThere, what kind of fuel consumption do you figure for just boiling water?

[AlmostThere]

For the White Box? About 1.25 - 1.5 ounces for a rolling boil, if you get the windscreen gapped properly and are boiling about a liter of water. I usually take the GSI kettle (not the Ketalist, mine is the .9 liter version) or the Evernew .9 liter titanium pot with the WhiteBox. Less water, less fuel. White Box is made for larger pots, more water, holds up to 2 oz of fuel.

[freestone]

Frediver wrote:

If you decide you would like to get rid of that Seva, let me know??

Don't want to get off topic or hijack the thread but my Svea does not have the stock windscreen, but rather the aluminum Optimus as a cookset. I fired it up last night and boiled two cups with 40 mL of white gas using a Trangia 25 teapot in just under 5 minutes. I was a bit rusty in using it, but it all came back including the priming ritual. Definitely old school stuff but a minimalist could stay out for many days on one liter of fuel. The down side is unused gas can not be stored in the stove when packed and I much prefer the aroma and handling properties of alcohol compared to white gas.

[hikin_jim]

Good to know, thanks.
What type of "flip" bottle are you using, the measure bottle with "flipper"
I got with my stove leak's, are you removing the "flipper" between uses?

Most recently, I've been using a Boston Round that I bought from REI. The trick with the flip top bottles is to test them before you leave the store. I close the flip top and squeeze. If air comes out, that bottle goes back on the shelf. I try a few until I find one that's air tight. Works for me.

HJ

[hikin_jim]

I guess my final hurdle is fuel consumption. I use hardware store denatured alcochol and haven't quite got my boil times down vs. how much fuel to use. To be on the safe side I figure about an ounce to boil 2 cups of water for most conditions. The water boils before the fuel is gone and the fire burns another minute or two. Is it best to err on the side of caution and just bring more fuel than is really needed?

I usually try to adjust my fuel so that my burn time lasts just long enough to bring 2 cups to a boil. I bring a sierra cup on my trips. If my stove is still burning much past the point where the water boils, I'll use the sierra cup as a snuffer and use an eye dropper to reclaim the unused alcohol.

HJ

[freestone]

FYI, if you are still using an alcohol stove, denatured alcohol can no longer be purchased in the state of California. Not a drop to be had anywhere. I did finally order some from Amazon but that will probably not be possible in the near future as well. Why the ban? Air quality.

[c9h13no3]

FYI, if you are still using an alcohol stove, denatured alcohol can no longer be purchased in the state of California. Not a drop to be had anywhere. I did finally order some from Amazon but that will probably not be possible in the near future as well. Why the ban? Air quality.

Gonna have to restart my moonshine business...

[bobby49]

FYI, if you are still using an alcohol stove, denatured alcohol can no longer be purchased in the state of California. Not a drop to be had anywhere. I did finally order some from Amazon but that will probably not be possible in the near future as well. Why the ban? Air quality.

Oh, say it isn't so.

How does the State of California expect us to use our stove hardware if we can't buy fuel? Does the State of California expect that we are trying to burn twenty gallons per day of the stuff?

Well, let's see. I suppose that I could shop out of state for it. I suppose that I could purchase high proof drinking alcohol, even though it is expensive.

Any other alternatives?

I have one DIY alcohol stove that weighs 2 grams. It is so tiny that it takes two burns to boil a cup of water.