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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby vandman » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:01 am

That Whitebox looks very interesting. Does it need a pot stand?

My Trangia consumes 3/4 of an ounce per 2 cups of water. I drink a lot of coffee, so I use 3 ounces of hardware store denatured alcohol a day. Without the coffee, I would consume only one ounce a day. The weight difference between cannister and alcohol stoves is not much really, except that you can find the alcohol almost anywhere in the world, and as you use up the alcohol, you only have to carry out a reusable plastic bottle, instead of a dead metallic cannister. Alcohol is greener.



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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:49 pm

The Whitebox is the pot stand.

You can also stand on it. I appreciate things that survive me. :cool:
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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby TahoeJeff » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:36 pm

AlmostThere, what kind of fuel consumption do you figure for just boiling water?
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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:50 pm

For the White Box? About 1.25 - 1.5 ounces for a rolling boil, if you get the windscreen gapped properly and are boiling about a liter of water. I usually take the GSI kettle (not the Ketalist, mine is the .9 liter version) or the Evernew .9 liter titanium pot with the WhiteBox. Less water, less fuel. White Box is made for larger pots, more water, holds up to 2 oz of fuel.
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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby freestone » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:55 am

Frediver wrote:
If you decide you would like to get rid of that Seva, let me know??


Don't want to get off topic or hijack the thread but my Svea does not have the stock windscreen, but rather the aluminum Optimus as a cookset. I fired it up last night and boiled two cups with 40 mL of white gas using a Trangia 25 teapot in just under 5 minutes. I was a bit rusty in using it, but it all came back including the priming ritual. Definitely old school stuff but a minimalist could stay out for many days on one liter of fuel. The down side is unused gas can not be stored in the stove when packed and I much prefer the aroma and handling properties of alcohol compared to white gas.
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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby hikin_jim » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:13 pm

frediver wrote:Good to know, thanks.
What type of "flip" bottle are you using, the measure bottle with "flipper"
I got with my stove leak's, are you removing the "flipper" between uses?

Most recently, I've been using a Boston Round that I bought from REI. The trick with the flip top bottles is to test them before you leave the store. I close the flip top and squeeze. If air comes out, that bottle goes back on the shelf. I try a few until I find one that's air tight. Works for me.

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Re: Alcohol Stoves

Postby hikin_jim » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:18 pm

TahoeJeff wrote:I guess my final hurdle is fuel consumption. I use hardware store denatured alcochol and haven't quite got my boil times down vs. how much fuel to use. To be on the safe side I figure about an ounce to boil 2 cups of water for most conditions. The water boils before the fuel is gone and the fire burns another minute or two. Is it best to err on the side of caution and just bring more fuel than is really needed?

I usually try to adjust my fuel so that my burn time lasts just long enough to bring 2 cups to a boil. I bring a sierra cup on my trips. If my stove is still burning much past the point where the water boils, I'll use the sierra cup as a snuffer and use an eye dropper to reclaim the unused alcohol.

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