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Sub 15oz bear bag?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:30 pm
by copeg
Found this today (http://www.wilderness-solutions.com/)...an electrical bear bag that discharges a shock when the bag is 'armed' and disturbed. So far it is submitted for SIBBG approval, who knows how that will go...only time will tell...although, I'd hate to trip over it in the middle of the night :eek: or even worse

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:06 pm
by The Other Tom
Interesting approach. Thanks for posting. I wonder how they came up with the "shock value" of the unit...0.1 Joule. I don't have a real good feel about that number, but seems to me that it might be a little low.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:53 pm
by hikerduane
Would be good to remember where it is when the call of nature strikes before first light. :eek:

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:40 am
by StumbleBum
Worth keeping an eye on.

zapping bears

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:12 pm
by gdurkee
A long time ago and far, far away, we set up an electric fence in Little Yosemite Valley for people to put their packs in from bears. (Before boxes, canisters and, even, cables). There were maybe 12 bears frequenting LYV then. They paced relentlessly outside the enclosure for a few nights until, one moonless night, a kamikaze bear charged the wire, grabbed a pack, and ran off into the darkness and bear hero lore.

We took the fence down the next day.

Never underestimate an animal you can teach to ride a bicycle.

g.

Re: zapping bears

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:28 am
by BSquared
Excellent story, George!

On the other other hand, lots of beekeepers in Vermont seem to find that electric fences keep the bears away from their bees pretty effectively, so it might work. Of course I'd never claim a Vermont bear had anything on a Yosemite bear...

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:49 am
by copeg
As a side note, here's a link to an electric bear fence: http://www.udap.com/bearshock.htm
Very interesting story George...

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:13 am
by BSquared
GREAT movie at that web site!

Zap

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:23 pm
by frediver
Like everyone else I don't want to pack more than I need to but maybe in this instance using an electric device over an approved bear can might be the best choice. Unless hikers take a more active roll in deterring bears they will always be a problem. Bears must be made afraid of humans and not see them as an easy snack so how is this task best accomplished?
Protecting your food is one choice but IMO not really the best one.
Better yet will be for the bear to not see hikers as any type of food source.
So a ZAPPER on/over an approved bear can might be a decent choice to accomplish this task and worth the extra weight.

Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:02 pm
by Lightning Dog
BSquared wrote:GREAT movie at that web site!
Definitely check out the movie at this site. Watching the bear try and dig under the fence is amazing.