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Bear Can, What do you like ?

Postby frediver » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:14 am

It looks like my choice will be between a Garcia Machine Co. Bear can or
the Bear Vault 400. The sizes are just about the same, 615 cu. in. or 700 cu.in. I.E. one meal I guess. Well any reason for one over the other, the price is the same, weight is close enough, locks and size being the only real difference.
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Postby hikerduane » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:29 am

I prefer the Garcia Machine. Because it is paid for. :) If I have my coin, I always have money to call home with.

The recent purchasers of the Bear Vault like the clear package so they can see where stuff is in it. It is supposed to be a little bigger and slightly lighter than the Garcia Machine. The manufacturer has had to make changes to the lid a couple times because it can be hard to unscrew (getting it past the catch/push it in thing). Whether or not folks had the lid on properly, bears have accessed it a few times too. Bear Vault won't admit they have a design that isn't that user friendly (that push it in and quickly turn thing again) although I hear it is easier to use now. It had issues too when grit got into the threads, you know, the stuff all around you when in its proper environment. If it was so fine earlier why did they change it? Many people still like it though. If I get another one, I'll save up for the pricey aluminum alloy one, although I heard the zip whats-there-names that fasten to the catches are prone to wear.
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Postby BSquared » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:23 pm

Although it's not on your list, I can't praise the Bearikade highly enough. It's definitely the Mercedes (Rolls?) of bear canisters at nearly $300 for the expedition size, but it's (a) light and (b) bomb-proof. A bear swiped one out of our campsite on the first night of a JMT trip three years ago, and we could hear her stomping on it and evidently jumping out of trees onto it for literally hours. No damage -- not even a scratch. The insides were a little shaken up (I think it was probably chocolate pudding that we found evenly distributed over everything else ;)), but essentially no damage. <http://www.wild-ideas.net/index2.html>
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Postby mountaineer » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:46 pm

I have never used a bear can. Never had bears get my food either.
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Postby Shawn » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:43 pm

I like the Bear Vault. If I were to buy another, I'd get the smaller, solo version.
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Postby Charles2 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:22 pm

I have the Bear Vault weekender and have had no problems with it, so far, in terms of opening and closing. I have used one of the earlier versions with the push-and-twist lid and it was a bit difficult to open unless you slipped a knife blade between the lid catch and the one on the body. The blade serves as a ramp and the two catches slip easily past one another on opposite sides of the blade. Carefully done, the knife won't do any damage. Insofar as keeping bears out of my food I can't rate either of the Bear Vaults since neither has been challenged. I have crammed a skimpy six days worth of food into the weekender but stuff is so compressed the thing feels as dense as a cannonball and I lost two pounds on the trip.
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Postby gary c. » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:34 pm

I've only used the vault but so far it has given me no problems. I also like the fact that it is clear. The wife was a little bent out of shape when she first saw it though. She looked at it and said "you paid $70 for a sparkletts jug?" :nod: :lol:
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Postby Snow Nymph » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:33 pm

I started off with the Garcia, but got the Bearikade Expedition (2) for long trips. It was a lot lighter, so I used it regularly. We also have the Bearikade Weekender for short trips.
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Postby Lightning Dog » Wed May 02, 2007 2:19 pm

Bear vault 250 fits nicely in my pack. Once you get the trick to the lid down, you never have a problem (even with freezing fingers). We used 3 small ones for 4 people for 4 days and had too much food. Ended up with lots of leftovers. We will take 4 small ones for 6 people for 5 days in June. Plus they make a great stool and/or table.
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Postby eugene » Wed May 02, 2007 2:50 pm

I have the Bear Keg, I know, I know, not in the "in crowd". I got it because I could get a really good deal on it. The biggest feature of the Bear Keg is that it is bright yellow, so everyone can see it for miles around. The size is rather large, but that also makes it heavier than others. The shape of the keg is not a true cylinder like other cannisters. The middle of the keg is about an inch larger than the top and bottom. So it tapers out, in the middle. I found this to be rather annoying when trying to pack in my pack. It would leave a lot of dead space in my pack that I would have to get creative with.
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Postby markskor » Wed May 02, 2007 3:09 pm

Bought the Bearikade Weekender a few years ago...used Snowy's name and saved a few bucks, still pricey but light...fits in all my backpacks easily.
I took all my old collection of stickers...Vasque, Gregory, Eagle Claw, etc (yes a HST sticker too) and plastered them all over the outside...now it is hard to miss and nobody can confuse my can with anybody elses.
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Postby KathyW » Wed May 02, 2007 4:12 pm

I was using a Bearikade Weekender but then last summer I switched to the Ursack with the liner. Now that they have taken the Ursack off the approved list I have a brand new Bearikade Scout. My trips are not usually very long, so I only need a small bear can. The Scout will be easier to pack because it's smaller than the other Weekender.

Over the years I've also been through the Garcia and the small size Bear Vault. The Garcia was too heavy and the Bear Vault was too hard to open.
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