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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby gabe&mel » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:58 pm

A down jacket in a stuff sack works really well, though silnylon stuff sacks feel clammy to my face/neck. You can get a stuck sack lined with fleece to mitigate this. Or as others said bring a fleece and call it a day.

The Thermarest compressible (size medium) pillow is really cheap and really comfortable (side sleeper here) the only downside is that it takes up a large amount of space in your pack like half of my down quilt. Easy to wash but takes a few cycles to to dry. Prefer to take when camping. Switched from exped air pillow which packed really small and has benefit of being really light but not too comfortable.

This summer I made switch to Exped Downpillow (size large) and it hit the sweet spot of comfort, weight (6.5 oz w/o stuff sack), and reasonable packed size. Gets stuffed in with my sleeping bag. Cons: will set you back fifty bucks. A necessity ... no, but worth it to me.

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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby alc101ma » Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:58 pm

gabe&mel wrote:This summer I made switch to Exped Downpillow (size large) and it hit the sweet spot of comfort, weight (6.5 oz w/o stuff sack), and reasonable packed size. Gets stuffed in with my sleeping bag. Cons: will set you back fifty bucks. A necessity ... no, but worth it to me.


Interesting, Gabe. I'll have to see if I can find this at the store and check it out. It seems to have a nice balance of weight, compressibility, and comfort.

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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby rayfound » Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:38 pm

Oh man, I want that exped downpillow.
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby Bluewater » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:32 pm

I usually don't carry extra clothes or even a stuff sack to make a pillow. I use two or three pillows at home and need the extra support due to breathing issues (mild apnea), so I really need something large.

After trying the Montbell, Kookabay, Klymit, Exped and FlexAir inflatables I finally settled on the Exped UL size large. It has enough height in "flat mode" and the shape is comfortable. For reading I tilt it up and it cradles my head and neck. 2 ozs.

I made a simple silk pillow case out of an old l/s shirt which feels much better than the plastic:) The material is flexible so I can stuff a down vest or wind pants when not wearing them as part of my sleep "system".

There was a good article on BPL last year that compared many of the models in 2014:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin ... ordan.html


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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby John Harper » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:49 pm

Brien wrote:I really like the Cocoon. Lightweight, compacts well and has two sides, one soft microfiber and the other nylon. My only beef is after I hand washed it I could never quite seem to get the inner bladder in position again.


If you wash it while partially inflated, you won't have that issue.

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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby KathyW » Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:30 pm

I just use a stuff sack with clothing in it. I never go backpacking without some type of puffy jacket, but I'm a cold sleeper; so sometimes I wear that to bed and it's not always available for stuffing into the sack. That means I will stuff the sack with clothing that aren't always so soft including things like a hardshell jacket. Last year, I picked up a thermarest stuff sack pillow http://www.cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-r ... ow/product and found that it's still comfortable even when not stuffed with the softest clothing. This summer, someone broke into my house and the only things they took were coins I was saving - I had them in jars of pennies, nickles, dimes, and quarters and. Later when I was looking for my stuff sack pillow, I realized that was also missing. I guess they filled the missing stuff sack with the coins because they had left the empty jars behind (they didn't take the pennies). I knew I really liked my stuff sack pillow because I bought a new one right away as I didn't want to head out without one.

I also sometimes build up a platform under the pillow with my pack and other items - especially when I have a short sleeping pad with me because then I'm not able to put that under my head.
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby Jimr » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:59 pm

All of this talk about pillows prompted me to pull out my old blow-up pillow and use it half inflated in my day pack.
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby Jimr » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:02 pm

gabe&mel wrote: Cons: will set you back fifty bucks. A necessity ... no, but worth it to me.



A bit cheaper than that book you have there :lol:
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby gabe&mel » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:50 pm

Jimr wrote:
gabe&mel wrote: Cons: will set you back fifty bucks. A necessity ... no, but worth it to me.



A bit cheaper than that book you have there :lol:


Thankfully there are libraries, and ways to crop these things out. :wink:
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby mschnaidt » Fri Oct 30, 2015 4:28 pm

I have used the Cocoon for the last couple of years and it is a good pillow. But... I picked up a Klymit pillow X recently and it's better. It weighs 2.25 ounces folds up to a tiny size and is super comfortable. It inflates with 2 breaths and is 15"x11"x3.5". It fits into the pillow pocket of my sleeping bag. What I like most about it is that it stays in place and the design centers your head in the middle of the pillow. I doesn't squirt around when you move which my cocoon did. Wrapping it in a fleece, a down jacket or the Thermarest pillow sleeve (which I have and it fits) would be luxurious.

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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby JWreno » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:44 pm

I use a small inflatable pillow that I put in a stuff bag with my down sweater unless it is so cold that I am wearing the extra down. When I get up in the night for a bathroom break I wear the down sweater which keeps me freezing so much. I sleep with long johns top and bottom so I am pretty warm outside with the added sweater. The long johns are only used in the evening and overnight at camp after I wash up at end of day of hiking. This helps keep the stink off my sleeping bag.
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Re: Let's talk Pillows

Postby SSSdave » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:53 pm

Pack is fine with some clothing am not wearing on top. Or the standard, toss unused clothing into the sleeping bag stuff sack. Probably bring more clothing generally than most backpackers. Almost always have some rain gear on longer trips. Generally am not too picky on what my head lies except prefer my head being up higher than the rest of my body so am likely to place the stuff sack atop my camera daypack or boots haha.
Also usually take along my Seirus Hoodz heavyweight fleece balaclava that often wear at night:

http://seirus.com/hoodz-6037.html

Is thick enough that it provides a soft next to skin layer for whatever is underneath.
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