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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby FeetFirst » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:02 pm

caddis wrote:I want a pack in the 60 liter range and there are a few to choose from: Exos, Volt, Aether, Atmos. The choice comes down to which features I want and the Volt looks to be my choice. The Exos is the lightest of the group and I'd probably opt for that one except I want a pack my son can also use. The selling point for me with the Volt is the adjustable torso and hip belt. I can use the pack and my son can use the pack with a few adjustments


I was able to check out and try on the Osprey Volt 60 at REI recently and I was really impressed. It reminds me of the "older" Aether series ('07 ish) that had less "features" than the newer ones and was about a pound lighter because of it. Prolitegear.com has a deal on the Volts right now for $135 shipped: http://www.prolitegear.com/site/osprey-volt-60.html

Here's their video overview: http://youtu.be/IhcTNrdmebM
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby maverick » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:45 pm

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My hated Osprey Exos 58 :thumbsdown: Will definitely get something new for next season
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby richlong8 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:09 pm

Maverick, I am glad you said something about the Osprey Exos 58. I tried it on in REI, and there was just something about it I did not like, even though the weight of the empty pack was an attractive selling point. I am leaning in favor of the ULA Catalyst. It seems like it will work well for an all round pack, for me at least.
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby caddis » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:22 pm

FeetFirst wrote:I was able to check out and try on the Osprey Volt 60 at REI recently and I was really impressed. It reminds me of the "older" Aether series ('07 ish) that had less "features" than the newer ones and was about a pound lighter because of it. Prolitegear.com has a deal on the Volts right now for $135 shipped: http://www.prolitegear.com/site/osprey-volt-60.html

Here's their video overview: http://youtu.be/IhcTNrdmebM

That's a heck of a deal. thanks :thumbsup:
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby maverick » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:53 pm

Richlong8 wrote:
Maverick, I am glad you said something about the Osprey Exos 58. I tried it on in
REI, and there was just something about it I did not like, even though the weight
of the empty pack was an attractive selling point
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Yeah, that is about all it has going for it Rich. It is to delicate, the buckles are made
of cheap plastic, the shoulder and hip padding is none existent. :\
If would work for someone carrying light loads and staying mostly on trail.
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby maverick » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:03 pm


Caddis wrote:

That's a heck of a deal. thanks :thumbsup:


Or you could wait till October, place an order with me, and get it for $105. :unibrow:
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby caddis » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:30 pm

maverick wrote:

Caddis wrote:

That's a heck of a deal. thanks :thumbsup:


Or you could wait till October, place an order with me, and get it for $105. :unibrow:
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby Buford » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:24 pm

Tarp+big bivy
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ULA Ohm
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby Hobbes » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 am

Buford wrote:Tarp+big bivy
Katabatic Sawatch


For rainy conditions, you can drop the bivy and increase the size of the tarp and achieve both a dryer set-up and net decrease in weight. (Even more if the tarp is constructed from cuben.) Your bag already has a great DWR if cowboy camping (my preferred choice) that eliminates the need for a bivy in dry conditions:

Katabatic: We use this ultralight Pertex Quantum as the shell fabric on our sleeping bags. Pertex Quantum fabric is down proof, very breathable, and features the best DWR treatment we have seen.

My list:
DIY 25 degree quilt (15oz 900FP + 6oz M90 shell/liner)
DIY 9'x8' cat-cut tarp-tent
DIY 35L pack - just bought some 210 Dyneema ($27/sq yd!) to copy present Sil version
48" cut-down RidgeRest (folded & also used as pack pad + pseudo frame)
Ursack - I've been staying out of canister required areas or traverse during the day
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby Bluewater » Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:25 pm

I also traded my bivy/small tarp setup for just a larger tarp with more tie-outs and it has worked better in storms above treeline.

For a 10 day trip after bug season this summer I used:

MYOG 50 liter cuben pack with dyneema reinforcement material.

MYOG 25 degree quilt with 11.5 ozs of 900 fp down and 6 ozs in materials (1.75" cuben baffles, M50 shell, NoBul 1 liner).

Zpacks 6' x 9' cuben tarp with MYOG cuben groundsheet/poncho.

Xlite large.


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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby Hobbes » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:42 am

Bluewater wrote:MYOG 25 degree quilt with 11.5 ozs of 900 fp down


Andy, that's a sweet set-up. I'm toying with the idea of re-doing my sil tarp in cuben. Tarps are where the real (fabric) weight savings pay-off comes due to the sheer size (3x2 yd = 6 sq yd). Packs only user 1+ sq yd of material, so the net weight difference isn't that great.

One note on your quilt - I treat 15 oz of 900fp in a quilt as 25- degrees, yet you're under 12oz. I used T-H's kit, which comes standard with 12oz, but ordered 3 more. I base my logic on Feathered Friends calcs for their 20 degree Egret (since it uses 900fp):

http://featheredfriends.com/egret-ul-wo ... g-bag.html

They use 17.3 oz 900FP for their women's medium, which is 5'9". Proportionally, pulled out to my 6'6", I come up with 20oz, but then reduce it by 20% to account for lack of fill on the bottom of the quilt. Therefore, I end up with 16+oz for 20-25 degrees.

You already know this, but there is simply no bigger bang for the (warmth) buck than super high quality down. Keep it dry, which is the reason for the (slightly) oversized tarp, and it's a great warmth-to-weight item.
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Re: Last year's gear used?

Postby freestone » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:42 pm

For 2014:

Pack- Granite Gear Crown V-60. 3rd season and still going strong. I may replace the plastic frame sheet with an air pad.

Sleeping bag- WM Versalite. Perfect for cowboy camping in the late season, absolutely no chance for a cold draft. Last year I used the Valandre Mirage but had to sleep in a down jacket to stay comfortable.

Pad- Exped down mat 7, the 3rd season.

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Shelter- Gossamer Gear Q-twinn Cuben tarp. Last year I used the Big Agnes Flycreek UL2, tent fly pitch only. The big draw with the tarp was the 13 ounce weigh-in with ground cover, pegs and poles (chose not to use trekking poles). The draw back was the large footprint and poor anchoring in Sierra decomposed granite soil. I did get a really good pitch at Anvil camp during a windstorm and was impressed at how it shed the wind and remained stable and quite (no flapping). At Anvil, there was no shortage of rocks to keep the tent pegs anchored.

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