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Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby orbitor » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:07 pm

Would like to know if anyone here is signed up or is thinking about participating in this year's Sierra Challenge. If so, what's your reason?

I decided I'll try a couple of days just so I can say I participated.

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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby longri » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:12 pm

The offerings are increasingly obscure each year.

orbitor wrote:If so, what's your reason?

If you have to ask....

The bottom line is that it's "fun".
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby orbitor » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:25 pm

Longri,

I agree the peaks get more obscure every year, but there is always the option of substituting a peak that was used in the previous challenges (provided you haven't climbed it at that time). This is what I'm doing on my second day. Also gives me the opportunity to climb something I've been looking forward to for a long time.
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby oldranger » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:35 am

This is not a criticism but just a reflection I have had for a long time. Why do people need or want to follow "challenges" challenges established by someone else. Just never understood need/desire to thru hike, do Halfdome, or any number of "in" things.

To me the challege is to discover, on my own or through querying friends, obsecure places and spending time becoming inimate with an area. Sort of like the difference between a one night stand and a committed relationship.

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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby DriveFly44 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:12 am

oldranger wrote:This is not a criticism but just a reflection I have had for a long time. Why do people need or want to follow "challenges" challenges established by someone else. Just never understood need/desire to thru hike, do Halfdome, or any number of "in" things.

To me the challege is to discover, on my own or through querying friends, obsecure places and spending time becoming inimate with an area. Sort of like the difference between a one night stand and a committed relationship.

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Maybe it's a rhetorical question but since you posted it I'll take a shot.......cause we're all wired differently and what is a challenge and motivation to you perhaps is of little interest to someone else. Some people don't value as much the intimacy and obscurity that you seem to put a higher importance on and that's cool. It's what makes the world go round. I certainly value self discovery too (more than organized) but see how taking part of something like this could be fun and bring me together with others that are like minded and have similar goals. Being able to share in something I accomplished with another person who did the same may bring a connection with that individual I would have otherwise never experienced.

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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby KathyW » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:57 pm

oldranger wrote:This is not a criticism but just a reflection I have had for a long time. Why do people need or want to follow "challenges" challenges established by someone else. Just never understood need/desire to thru hike, do Halfdome, or any number of "in" things.

To me the challege is to discover, on my own or through querying friends, obsecure places and spending time becoming inimate with an area. Sort of like the difference between a one night stand and a committed relationship.

Mike


We all find different ways to try to fill our march from the cradle to the grave - some people enter challenges set out by someone else and others wander solo going in their own direction. It's okay either way.
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:55 pm

I still use my saying "It doesn't matter how you do it as long as you do it".

Maybe I should add "and enjoy yourself" to that.

I'm personally not into challenges. That drive to push yourself to the limits. My least favorite part of hiking the Sierra is being in agony gasping for breath with sore everything.
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby orbitor » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:44 am

oldranger wrote:This is not a criticism but just a reflection I have had for a long time. Why do people need or want to follow "challenges" challenges established by someone else. Just never understood need/desire to thru hike, do Halfdome, or any number of "in" things.

To me the challege is to discover, on my own or through querying friends, obsecure places and spending time becoming inimate with an area. Sort of like the difference between a one night stand and a committed relationship.

Mike


Hi oldranger,
Your comments are from the perspective of someone with many years of experience roaming the Sierra - and I certainly respect that. As for myself, I am at a point in my life where I feel my strength continuing to increase, thus allowing me to push the limits to greater extremes. Furthermore, while backpacking has been and always will be my true love, I am also very much into peakbagging, so I definitely want to take advantage of these prime-time years to see how far I can get in that category. The Sierras are the ultimate proving ground for California; Bob Burd is the guru. Participating in his challenge gives me a measuring stick, as I'm sure it does to many others who are joining. I know I'll get whooped, but it's the experience that counts!
Finally, regarding your remark about the appeal of "in" things - I'm of the opinion that everything should be tried at least once.
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby orbitor » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:17 pm

DriveFly44 wrote:Maybe it's a rhetorical question but since you posted it I'll take a shot.......cause we're all wired differently and what is a challenge and motivation to you perhaps is of little interest to someone else. Some people don't value as much the intimacy and obscurity that you seem to put a higher importance on and that's cool. It's what makes the world go round. I certainly value self discovery too (more than organized) but see how taking part of something like this could be fun and bring me together with others that are like minded and have similar goals. Being able to share in something I accomplished with another person who did the same may bring a connection with that individual I would have otherwise never experienced.

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Ladd,
I plan on doing the hikes I signed up for with a small team from my regular hiking group in Southern California. These are people whose abilities I know well and whose company I thoroughly enjoy, so yes, it is as much about the camaraderie and the shared experience as it is about the physical challenge. I also look forward to meeting the other participants and hearing about what motivates them, what their goals are, etc.
Definitely agree that having different interests is perfectly fine. As long as we all respect each other's choices, meaningful experiences are to gained.
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby longri » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:15 pm

orbitor wrote:Longri,

I agree the peaks get more obscure every year, but there is always the option of substituting a peak that was used in the previous challenges (provided you haven't climbed it at that time). This is what I'm doing on my second day. Also gives me the opportunity to climb something I've been looking forward to for a long time.


That's true. I suppose you could go to ten different trailheads and climb ten different peaks and never even see any of the other participants!
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby orbitor » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:11 pm

That's true. I suppose you could go to ten different trailheads and climb ten different peaks and never even see any of the other participants!


Agreed, but that would defeat the purpose of the challenge. I think it's ok to make a few substitutions as long you do most of the 'menu' for that particular year. Luckily for me, I have no ambitions to be one of the top competitors, thus doing just two days provides enough satisfaction - even when hiking with Bob's group for only one of those!
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Re: Sierra Challenge 2013

Postby mbrown » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:21 pm

I am an occasional backpacker and peak climber (usually with quide). I used to enjoy reading
bob burds descriptions of the sierra challenges. A few years ago, a woman participant fell off
a ridge during the competition and was very lucky to escape with relatively minor injuries.
A competition where people are perhaps going to push themselves far beyond their comfort
zone and where mistakes could be lead to great bodily harm or worse
is what I would call "intense". I used to regularly train for marathons with much better runners.
If I couldnt keep up, no matter how hard I tried, I would either slow down or stop and perhaps
jog back to my car. The idea of trying to keep up with extremely talented rock climbers/hikers
miles into the backcountry until you are no longer thinking straight again is "intense". It would
be interesting to hear what the "pros" think when somebody who obviously has no business
starting this challenge appears at the start.
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