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Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Vaca Russ » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:21 pm

We needed to train for an upcoming challenge. What better training than knocking out a triple crown at elevation? We went for the White Mountains Triple Crown. This is three peaks, Limestone, Sheep and Piute. The height of these peaks is 12,277, 12,497 and 12,564 feet respectively.

We had climbed Barcroft the previous day. We took a picture of Limestone, Sheep and Piute from the summit of Barcroft.

1 Limestone, Sheep and Piute.JPG


The parking area for the climb is right off the road to the Barcroft gate. The Forest Service has placed cones and rocks on the ground to designate the area.

2 Parking Area.JPG


The slope up Limestone is a loose scree climb.

3 Limestone Scree Slope.JPG


Sport quickly found the ammo box holding the summit register.

4 Ammo Box.JPG


We signed the register on Limestone.

5 Register.JPG


We found Laura’s and Bob Burd signature from 24 August of last year.

6 Laura Molnar.JPG


Bob Burd has posted a report about this climb with Laura. They did all three peaks as well. So we made our way to the top of Sheep. We searched and search for the ammo box containing the register. We had no success. I knew there was a register because Bob had posted many pictures of it going back to about 1958. It was really a remarkable piece of history. All we could find was the benchmark.

7 Sheep Benchmark.JPG


The views from Sheep were great.

8 Sheep View.JPG


There was a wind screen built of rocks but no ammo box to be found…

9 Sheep Summit White and Barcroft in Background.JPG


…guess where this is headed. We worked our way down the scree choked slopes of Sheep toward Piute.

10 Sheep Down Hill Scree.JPG


To be continued…
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Vaca Russ » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:27 pm

The smooth gradual slope of Piute still had patched of snow.

11 Piute.JPG


We reached the top and quickly spotted the ammo box. I was happy to open the box…

12 Me Piute Register.JPG


…but only found one slip of paper. This is the message from Tim Forsell…

12a Tim Forsell.jpg


Edit gap.

Edit gap.

Edit Gap.

:eek: :eek: :nod: :mad: :mad: :eek:

12b Tim Forsell.jpg


I’m guessing he is not from the John Dittli Cripple Creek but the one on the White Mountains. I nominate Tim for president!

Here is a great shot of a beautiful woman with Barcroft and White in the background.

13 Sport Simmit.JPG


From the summit of Piute you can barely see the roof of the privy at the Barcroft gate.

14 Barcroft Gate.JPG


Hey, Snow Nymph, what ever happened to Laura?

15 Moose Box.JPG


Some Dead Head has mistaken this for “Box of Rain”. :)

16 Box of Rain.JPG


17 Sport Box.JPG


We eventually made our way back to the parking area.

20 Parking Lot.JPG


Thank you for reading our peak bagging TR.

-Russ
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Rockchucker » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:43 pm

I've heard of lots of registers disappearing around here, for the signatures. People can be so lame sometimes!
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby maverick » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:09 pm

Thanks VR for the enjoyable TR and wonderful pictures. Makes no sense for
people to be taking these summit registers.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby rlown » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:25 pm

I'm surprised people don't try and steal the benchmarks.

Nice report, Russ.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby KathyW » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:27 am

I must be missing something. What was the distressing find?
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Vaca Russ » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:52 am

KathyW wrote:I must be missing something. What was the distressing find?


Kathy,

I apologize for not being very clear. Bob Burd and Laura Molnar bagged these same three peaks last year on August 24. Bob wrote up a report:

http://www.snwburd.com/bob/trip_reports ... one_1.html

This report went out on the internet. It included several pictures of historic register entries.

Register.jpg


MacLeod.jpg


P1000495[2].jpg


P1000496[1].jpg


P1000497[1].jpg


P1000498[1].jpg


P1000499[1].jpg


P1000500[1].jpg


P1000501[1].jpg


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Somebody read his report and thought, "Hey, I've got an idea...Steal these registers!"

There are some people who can reach a certain level of low. [-X I find this distressing. #-o :(

Thanks,

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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby austex » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:51 am

Hmmm. Since I 'm not of a criminal mind. Thinking a quick buck? I just did a check of ebay for peak registers... Nothing. If my grandfather showed me one I'd think very poorly of him. *Scratching my head* WHY!? It just doesn't make sense. But then again; there are life's little mysteries out there.This is one of them. Sad indeed.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Wandering Daisy » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:01 pm

I suspect the removal of registers is more of an ideological statement from over-enthusiastic environmentalists who think of themselves as saviors of the wilderness because they do not think ANY permanant fixture or structure should be in a wilderness. Ignore the idea that you probably got there on a road, trail perhaps with signs and other permanent structures.

Other possiblity - just like stealing a stop sign - maybe frame the register and hang it in your bedroom to impress your peers.

Other possibility - pure vandalism. Least likely, I never thought of vandals being energetic enough to climb peaks. Kind of hard to get drunk and still climb 14,000 foot peaks.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Tom_H » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:44 pm

Really sad. WD could be right about enviro extremists. All of us (here) care about the environment, but WD is right about civilization making it possible to know about it and to get there.

And then there are people who are so messed up that the only way they can have any sense of importance is by doing something to injure or upset somebody else. Sad indeed.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby Wandering Daisy » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:59 pm

Personally, I have never liked the idea of signing peak registers. I only signed a register on a peak when I had done a significant new route. Yet, I would NEVER feel I were the "peak register" police and impose my own views on everyone else. May people I have climbed with over the years have really enjoyed signing registers. I see that they really get enjoyment out of it. Just not my bag if tea. I am also kind of an anti-peak bagger. For several years I would stop short about 50 feet of the summmit to make my statement! Again, most people I climbed with loved to touch the top. I would never deprive them of that pleasure. What seems to be lacking nowadays, is tolerance for views other than your own.
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Re: Distressing Find on the White Mountain Triple Crown

Postby KathyW » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:23 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote: What seems to be lacking nowadays, is tolerance for views other than your own.


I have to agree with that statement.

These days I don't care if I find a register on a summit, but if I find one I will sign it if it is my first time on top of the mountain. At the same time, I won't carry a new register to the top to replace an old one or a missing one. Maybe it's because I typically just get on top of bumps that are pretty easy to climb; so they are not a great accomplishment as far as climbs go.
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