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Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Crossdrew » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:21 am

We are planning on hiking out Taboose Pass in August. With llamas. The info on the USFS website says something to the effect of "Not advised for stock." Llamas can go places where horses/mules cannot, because they are smaller & more surefooted. My question is for any hikers who have come down Taboose Pass: Is there any thing that would be dangerous/difficult for a llama? OK, I know most of you have not hiked w/llamas, but can you think of any parts of the trail down that might be impassable for llamas? llamas can hike all the passes on the JMT, so is there anything espec. difficult that might be a problem for llamas? Thanks for any help, Crossdrew



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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby oldranger » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:27 pm

Crossdrew

There really is nothing difficult about Taboose for stock. The top couple miles is a lot of loose rock and sort of cobble like--certainly not a comfortable tread but doable with horses (my experience). No huge step ups or step downs. Not fun but not dangerous either. 6,000 feet of vertical and heat down low are the biggest problems for stock or people.

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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby maverick » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:18 pm

Hi Crossdrew,

Welcome to HST! Oldranger is absolutely correct that there is nothing technical
about the descent, but the steepness and mileage is what they are probably
referring to.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Crossdrew » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:10 pm

Perfect replies!! You both understood the question & your answers are just what we needed to know! Thank you so much! We will definitely drink a toast to you at the end of the trip! - Crossdrew
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby KathyW » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:41 am

I don't know why the USFS site says it's not advised for stock because they have improved the trail for stock use with lots of ankle twisting rubble. I'd say it's much easier on stock than on people. Actually, it's a pretty easy trail to hike up if it's not too hot out - it's coming down that I find most challenging.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Jimr » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:11 pm

I came down Taboose with a 60lb pack in sneakers. Other than stopping to extract the occasional rock, it was fine, until at the bottom when the shoes filled with 100F sand.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Crossdrew » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:11 am

Just wanted to share a post-trip report on Taboose Pass trail. It is a very beautiful area marred only by the impressive amount of talus! Miles and miles of talus! The llamas even complained (they whine), but it was easy enough to follow the trail down and the llamas had no problems. We could see some damage from the storms in July but the trail is passable and we saw evidence of recent horses on the trail. So it is definitely passage with stock.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Wandering Daisy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:16 pm

I am not sure what you saw was evidence of horses. When I went up the pass a few weeks ago, a couple were coming down with a donkey. I suspect the droppings were from the donkey.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby freestone » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:02 pm

When I was up there last week, the Conservation Corp had a large camp doing trail work and were camped at an area with many tent pads beyond the falls. Judging from the equiment, the size of the crew, and the horse droppings on the trail to that point, a small pack train was their method of equipment transport. There is also a corral near the trailhead, so there must be some sort of livestock demand on occasion.
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Re: Taboose Pass with Llamas

Postby Crossdrew » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:48 pm

OK, could have been a donkey, not sure; what we saw was some droppings that looked like horse droppings but I suppose it is possible it was some other member of equine family! :wink:
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