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Help for 2013 trip

Postby Kodiak » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:26 pm

Hello all. I am new to the forum with this being my first post. I'm not sure if "The Campfire" is the best place for my post and I'm still trying to firgure out how to navigate the site and send posts, I guess I'll learn.

I am new to backpacking 2013 will be my 3rd year in a row making a trip. I did two trips over 15 yrs ago but I was young. I am looking for a trail of 10 to 12 miles round trip with multiple lakes (if possible) to fish where campfires are permitted but are not heavily traveled. I usually go during the week to miss the crowds since what I love most about backpacking is the solitude and being alone with nature. I am the guy who follows the rules and do my best to follow the leave no trace idea. I have been to Dinkey Lakes and Jennie Lake in 2012 and had a great experience. Both times we were the only ones staying overnight with only a couple of folks passing through over a 4 day trip. I would appreciate any input on good lake trail. Thanks in advance.



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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby RoguePhotonic » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:35 pm

Since the nature of your post is on backpacking it can go in that section of the forum. The campfire is really and "offtopic" talk about anything sort of place. That being said welcome to the forum!

The criteria you laid out is specific so it can be narrowed it down. The only other details that would help is does it matter how much climbing you have to do in that 5-6 miles? Also is it better for you to be further North or more South?
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby Kodiak » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Thanks for the response. I would say anything south of Emigrant would be ideal. The climb is not really an issue. Just have to rest more or use pure will to press on.
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby whrdafamI? » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:35 pm

No offense intended but it is hard to "leave no trace" when you are having a campfire. Learn to live without one as they are terribly messy and no matter how hard you try they do leave more than just a trace.
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:55 pm

I can't think of allot of places that fall under that set of conditions since I don't do allot of fishing myself. If you went to Echo Lake South of Tuolumne it's about 6 miles, you can have a fire and it has some big enough to eat fish. You will also pass other lakes on the way. The last bit to it is cross country but it's extremely easy.

Getting away from people in that area is no easy task though. Your sure to see allot of them until you leave the trail.

Maybe something like the Devil's Bathtub North of Lake Edison.

Honestly I think you should pull out a ton of maps and start looking around. Most of the places I have gone to that's pretty much what I did. Especially when I started out.
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby cherron » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:16 pm

I wasn't clear if you preferred east or west side of the Sierras. Although it is hard to miss all the crowds, Mammoth Lakes area is nice for several reasons. There are lots of lakes within your hiking distance, it is easy to get to, elevation gain is not great so not as much acclimation needed. I wasn't clear if you preferred east or west side of the Sierras. Also the Cottowood Lakes area, south of Whitney. You can make a loop over New Army Pass and circle back around to Chicken Springs Lake. This is a nice three day trip, but may exceed your mileage. I agree with above comment, pick an area of interest and then start looking at the maps and trail guides. Part of the fun is in the planning (for me anyway!)! Enjoy!
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby Carne_DelMuerto » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:35 pm

Welcome to the board, Kodiac.

If you refer to the thread below, they folks here will be better able to help you out.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4205

If you have a location in mind, please use the board search feature---lots of great TRs to read.
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby balzaccom » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:56 am

Why do you need to be south of EMigrant? That's an ideal place for this kind of trip---and we have quite a few suggestions for that area on our website. BUt if you want to stay south of there, look at the Ansel Adams Wilderness (Granite Creek/Fernandez trailheads lead to some lovely lakes) or the John Muir WIlderness (Take a look at the Graveyard Lakes area out of Lake Thomas Edison).

But both of those drives will take a long time on tiny roads...And if you head north on 99, you'll be turning right on 120 before you know it!
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby KathyW » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:48 am

Some suggestions starting on the East Side:

1.Cottonwood Lakes Trail
2.Kearsarge Pass Trail
3.Big Pine Creek North Fork Trail
3.Bishop Pass Trail
4.Sabrina Lake Trail
5.Little Lakes Valley Trail from Mosquito Flats
6.Saddlebag Lake Trail
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby Mike M. » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:18 pm

Kodiak, if you want a camp fire, you'll have to camp below 10,000 feet, which is generally the altitude below which fires are allowed (some locales are more restrictive). So a west-side approach might make more sense. Can you narrow your geographic preferences down a little more? The Sierra is a great big place!

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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby Kodiak » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:24 pm

Thank you all for your posts. Since I'm new to this I appreciate all your suggestions and I will start my research. I joined this forum to learn from those with more experience than me and you have given me a place to start looking. As far as the comment from Bill, I totally understand what you are saying about leaving no trace with fire pits. My intention is to find a place with a pre-existing fire pit where it is legal. I've been to an area where they were prohibited and seen the old pits people have made when they are not supposed to and I was offended as I am sure you all are when you come across such a site. I don't want be that person that's why I ask. I understand the reasons why certain areas have set restrictions. I plan to learn to live with such messy practices. Baby steps I guess.

As far as location I am fairly open. It just cuts your hiking time if it is spent driving. I'm coming out of an area outside of Los Angeles so the north end is quite a long haul. I know you all have great suggestions since the Sierra Nevada is so vast and I have just begun to explore. I figure once I check out a significant part of one end I'll move north. Thanks again.
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Re: Help for 2013 trip

Postby oleander » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:00 pm

Paradise Valley is a fantastic destination for relative newbies.

The hike starts at Road's End near Cedar Grove in Kings Canyon NP. The drive there is beautiful. It is at a relatively low elevation, compared to much of the Sierra, so it opens up earlier than most places (easy to hike there in June). The most spectacular times to go are either early-season (June) when the waterfall there is really roaring; or in October when the aspen leaves are turning. Fires are allowed. I don't fish but a google search says the fishing is good.

I think you have to hike in about 7 miles before you can camp. That might exceed your ideal mileage. On the plus side, since the elevation is so low, and there is a lot of flat walking (some climbing too but not bad), the 7 miles are pretty easy. So it might not really be any harder than your hike into Jennie lakes.

You could park your tent at Paradise Valley for two nights in a row, and dayhike up the canyon as far as you want on your middle day.

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