Remote Locations | High Sierra Topix  

Remote Locations

If you've been searching for the best source of information and stimulating discussion related to Spring/Summer/Fall backpacking, hiking and camping in the Sierra Nevada...look no further!
User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby RoguePhotonic » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:54 am

It was my goal to go to that lake this year but no such luck. Maybe next year.



User avatar
RoguePhotonic
Topix Fanatic
 
Posts: 1665
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:52 am
Location: Bakersfield CA
Experience: Level 4 Explorer

User avatar

Remote Locations

Postby ironmike » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:26 pm

There is another photo of the lake at this URL (though the "name" is not called out):

http://www.chayden.net/Sierra90/Sierra90.html

...look about a third of the way down the page
User avatar
ironmike
Topix Acquainted
 
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:14 pm
Location: San Diego, CA
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby lostcoyote » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:25 pm

Cross Country wrote:One more thing. Has anyone been to Lake 10236?


yes, stopped for lunch on the way to lake ~10900 about 1.5 miles west-southwest of marion pk. it's a great place to camp. and there is some nice flats to sunbathe on at the outlet. although i did not stay overnite.... i later regretted that i should have stayed. i was pushing on to get closer to marion lake & lake basin for a first time visit there. from the inlet side of this lake, it's a nice infinity pool almost looking north towards the outlet. btw, this is the place very near where ansel adams took these shots looking down into the middle fork - he climbed up the ridgeline maybe just a quater mile north northeast from lake 10236.... which is why i wished that i had stayed & explored. up on the opposite ridgeline, the park service has installed a relay station.

Image

Image
looking towards north palisade ("dumbell" creek flowing along right edge)

btw, up on the opposite ridgeline, the park service has installed a relay station.

i would venture to say that tunemah lake (and especially the lakes just below it to the east) are far more remote. there are a fair number of people now doing ropers high route over gray,white,red passes between horseshoe lakes and marion lake.
Last edited by lostcoyote on Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
lostcoyote
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:11 pm
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby lostcoyote » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:44 pm

rambaud tarns....
(SW of rambaud pass)

for a different view up the enchanted gorge
User avatar
lostcoyote
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:11 pm
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby Wandering Daisy » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:00 am

I view "remote" as distance off trails and away from any human impacted structures. For me remote also means no communication- no cell phone coverage. I really do not feel there are many truely remote areas in the Sierra - just some are relatively more remote than others. Remote as a lot do do with your own experience. For most city dwellers, there ARE places in the Sierra that feel very remote. Places in Alaska of BC where you have to fly in by bush pilot (cannot even walk in because underbrush is crazy) are truely remote. Or areas that take many days to get to.

Areas on the Goddard Canyon map are far from trails and hard to get to as well as worth the effort to get there. But, if you happen to be there when several other groups are also there, it feels less remote.

Lots of area in the Sierra are remote in the winter. Those seeking remote should look into winter backpacking or ski mountaineering.
User avatar
Wandering Daisy
Topix Junkie
 
Posts: 2606
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:19 pm
Location: Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento area)
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby austex » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:00 pm

I agree with it's a state of mind. Can be anywhere. I've been to some far away places and some not so. Both were far away and remote in my mind.
User avatar
austex
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 365
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:51 am
Location: Austin, Texas
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby paul » Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:15 pm

I also think it is partly a state of mind, and distinctly seasonal. Some places feel much more remote than they are in a strict geographical sense due to being hard to get to and rarely visited.
And if you are out there in the winter/spring traveling over the snow, the feeling can be intense. For me, when I am on my backcountry ski tours I refer to it as feeling like I am "out there". I don't feel it until I am a few days out, in the sense that I am aware of being in a place that probably has not seen a human visitor in 4 months and won't see another for a couple more. And in some cases, being in places that have seen very few visitors ever at that time of year.
I have never had that feeling in the summer.
User avatar
paul
Topix Expert
 
Posts: 442
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:35 pm
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby SSSdave » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:22 pm

Your criteria of mileage makes answers simple and are already generally well known. Distance does not necessarily equate with remote. There are limited areas in the Sierra beyond 2 days normal effort backpacking from trailheads. Within those limited areas it is easy to figure out the furthest locations. North end of South Goddard Creek, southeast end of Kaweah Basin.

Far more interesting instead of mileage is difficulty or rarity in reaching. Those are places one can use the term REMOTE. Some places may be just a day from any trailhead but very few if any visit. I backpacked to Waterwheel Falls in peak after El Nino early summer flow. What! Of course that is right along a major trail just a day from Tuolumne Meadows? Well the trail is on the east side of at that time of summer a very much uncrossable torrent. Our trip was to the west side of the river which actually has much better views from bottom to top. And one cannot simply follow the west side of the river north of the Glen Aulin bridge because of aspen tangled huge talus. That required awkward offtrail travel down Cathedral Creek then a tricky topo analyzed route over Falls Ridge keeping difficulty class 2.

Here is a location a long one day or easy two days normal backpacking from the trailhead. Rarely visited, rather remote, and very much spectacular. Then why no visits? Because there are many spectacular worthwhile places in the Sierra that are out of the public discussion much less guidebooks. All but a tiny number of enthusiasts go places they read or heard about from others. But there is much more for those who explore especially if one does their homework with topo maps. I could write a book but then would have to burn it.

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.40494,-118.87808&z=15&t=T
User avatar
SSSdave
Topix Fanatic
 
Posts: 1965
Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:18 pm
Location: Silicon Valley
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby vandman » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:29 am

liquid peak and finger pass regiment272.jpg
This area in The Blackcap Basin felt very remote. This is looking south from Regiment lake toward Finger Peak/Pass in the distant right. I like the smooth granite, and solitude this area provides. August 2012
User avatar
vandman
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 277
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:08 pm
Location: Charlotte, NC
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby tarbuckle » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:25 am

The Green Trinities (New River area) is very seldom used. Trails aren't maintained anymore and fires have burned most of it in the past 10 years. You can spend a week up their without seeing a sole. No lakes, blazing heat in the summer and streams you can't ford in the spring. Fall is the best time. What you will see are beautiful rugged canyons, huge trees, bear and remnants of the gold mining era
Attachments
560753_516501011711987_665304852_n.jpg
User avatar
tarbuckle
Topix Novice
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:57 pm
Experience: N/A

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby tomba » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:04 pm

vandman wrote:This area in The Blackcap Basin felt very remote. This is looking south from Regiment lake toward Finger Peak/Pass in the distant right. I like the smooth granite, and solitude this area provides. August 2012

The same foreground ridge from opposite side a month later.
IMG_7872-pearl-lk-small.jpg
Pearl Lake
There is a use trail next to Pearl Lake. The area on the other side of White Divide and towards Ionian Basin feels much more remote - no trails, lakes don't even have names, and in contrast to west side of the divide, I didn't even see any sign of fish in them.
IMG_7819-finger-col-lk-small.jpg
-- Found trash? Please pack it out. Thank you.
User avatar
tomba
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 240
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:50 pm
Location: Bay Area
Experience: Level 4 Explorer

User avatar

Re: Remote Locations

Postby vandman » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:42 am

lake above goddard lake72.jpg
This small lake between The Ionian Basin and Goddard Creek is way out there and spooky remote. That's Reinstein on the left. The creek that flows from this outlet feeds the waterfalls above Lake 10,232 in Goddard Creek basin. August 2012
User avatar
vandman
Topix Regular
 
Posts: 277
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:08 pm
Location: Charlotte, NC
Experience: N/A

Previous

Return to Backpacking / Hiking / Camping



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSNbot Media [Bot] and 12 guests