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Remote Locations

Postby Gozerian138 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:27 pm

What is THE most remote location that you have ever been to in the Sierra's? Including lakes, mountains, canyons, etc. I am thinking in terms of milage away from any signs of civilation (excluding established trails). Would it be somewhere in the northern reaches of YNP perhaps? I am hoping some veterans on here will have some really interesting places that few ever reach due to technical ability, distance, effort or a combination.



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Re: Remote Locations

Postby RoguePhotonic » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:13 pm

I judge a place being remote in different ways. Some areas are not very far from a trail yet are almost never visited. When it comes to saying away from any trail that would probably have to be Ionian Basin or Goddard Creek. It's hard to find places in the Sierra that will take you a great distance away from any trail.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby oleander » Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:27 pm

Interesting question.

For it to feel truly "remote" it would have to be a long way from established trails - not just roads. For instance, Grouse Meadows in Leconte Canyon is very far from any road-end and is therefore very remote if you use "distance from roads/civilization" as your only criterion. However, it's smack dab on the John Muir Highway and is not technically difficult to access.

You mention northern Yosemite. There are trailed sections of far northern Yosemite that are probably as far in from a road's end as Grouse Meadows is. Also not technically difficult to reach; but they may have a more remote feel just because there is a lot more solitude there than on the JMT.

I hereby predict a slew of posts about SEKI destinations including the Black Divide/Tunemah/Goddard area; Dumbbell Lakes; and Kaweah Basin ;)

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Re: Remote Locations

Postby SandStorm » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:19 pm

There are some questionable aspects to voicing widely available public responses to this particular type of inquiry. What's more, the value of discovering - or merely endeavoring to discover - such places independently is difficult to overstate.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby Weasel » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:28 pm

I am new to the forum, and I live in Ohio. I was just in Tehipite Valley. I would say the area downstream from Little Tehipite Valley, or the ridge above Tehipite Valley that drains into the Gorge of Despair would be as remote as anything that you could want to find.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby mokelumnekid » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:04 pm

They are all over the place, teeny over-looked little basins that don't have much in the way of interesting or distinguishing features, or are such a heinous bushwhack or nasty steep rubble route they aren't worth the trouble. And there are even a few of these in the central Sierra, north of Sonora Pass that I won't call out here, where you can run across bear and so on with no sign of people (recently anyway). Overall my point is that most of the remote=seldom visited are places that are not an over-looked Shanghai-la, but rather places that are a grunt with few up-sides.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby AlmostThere » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:11 pm

Weasel wrote:I am new to the forum, and I live in Ohio. I was just in Tehipite Valley. I would say the area downstream from Little Tehipite Valley, or the ridge above Tehipite Valley that drains into the Gorge of Despair would be as remote as anything that you could want to find.


The ridge above the Gorge of Despair is part of Monarch Wilderness - highway 180 runs at the bottom of it just the other side. While it's definitely steep and wild, strenuous, and not frequented by people as a result, it's not remote in the sense that it's far from the road.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby vandman » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:59 am

The Goddard Creek area--Finger Lakes Basin is remote, and the Blackcap Basin just on the other side is pretty far from everything. The White Divide and Leconte Divide are places where you can be all by yourself. The Monarch wilderness is the same. Rugged and remote.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby fourputt » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:34 am

Remote is also a state of mind. At night from Bunchgrass "Flat" below Tunemah Pass you can see the lights of Hwy 180 looking across the canyon, but they feel like they're a century away from where you camp on a 5% slope.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby sierraholic » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:34 am

I agree the distance from roads is a poor criteria. In some cases, it is true, but in many, not so much. Spiller Canyon in Northern Yosemite is less than 10 miles from Twin Lakes, but feels like you are Lewis and Clark exploring the West in the early 1800s. In contrast, many parts of the JMT (like the aforementioned LeConte Canyon) are a long way from roads, but are a virtual freeway. When I was on that part of the JMT coming down from Muir Hut, I played leapfrog with a pack horse group of 20 people. Definitely not a "wilderness" experience or feeling of being remote! I just needed to hop over Black Giant Pass into Ionian Basin, and I would have felt a world away. ;)
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby Cross Country » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:48 am

From 1971 to 1996 I backpacked the Sierra over 500 days in search of the most remote fishing locations. I went to many places. In fact I went to almost all of the ones I considered to be good prospects for fishing which were remote. Of the few I didn't visit, the writers on HST have left information to all (both) except one. No one on HST claims to have been there. Therefor from my point of view it ranks as by the far the most remote. It is a lake up Copper Creek, over Granite Pass, past State and Horseshoe Lakes. On the Kings Canyon High Country Trail Map it is Lake 10236, close to Windy Ridge. If there is a destination lake more remote than this one I can't imagine what it is. Apparently no one on HST does either. Remember --- somewhere no one has been, like Lake 10236.

One more thing. Has anyone been to Lake 10236?

PS: I just had another stint put in my heart about 35 hours ago. Everything went smoothly.
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Re: Remote Locations

Postby ibSteve » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:26 am

Regarding Lake 10236, I found this photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mecocrus/275600543/

And congratulations on your successful surgery!
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