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Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby DAVELA » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:35 am

Was hoping to do some winter camping up the north fork/palisades after last weeks snow but now with this heat wave i dunno.
Anybody have an idea what snow conditions will be like this weekend.Its gonna be 90 this weekend.Gross. :eek:



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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby RoguePhotonic » Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:42 am

Looks like some flooding may take place with all the fresh snow and the major heat. It's supposed to be 99 here in Bakersfield.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby Wild Bill » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:47 pm

I'm a few miles north of that area, but Crowley Lake environ is dry up to 9,000'. It's patchy/solid snow above that. "Spring conditions" prevail; i.e. soft snow during the day. Seems to me it's melting fast.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby tim » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:46 pm

Its worth keeping an eye on the peak snowmelt forecast: http://www.cnrfc.noaa.gov/awipsProducts/RNOHFSSPK.php

Currently they are predicting peak snowmelt/river flow around May 1. For reference I think last year the peak snowmelt was mid June, while in 2010 it was around Memorial Day weekend. I guess bug season is going to start pretty early, especially with the coming hot weather.

Also there's a report on the Whitney Portal site that Horseshoe Meadows, Onion Valley & Whitney Portal roads will all open officially on April 27 (though the latter two are apparently unofficially open already). For Horseshoe Meadows that's also about 6 weeks earlier than last year.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby DAVELA » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:19 pm

So is it going to be a slush fest this weekend up there?
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby Wild Bill » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:29 am

I sure wouldn't count on building an igloo! :nod:
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby jessegooddog » Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:35 pm

Onion Valley is officially open; cones and road closed sign are gone. 89 is also now open, and the Tioga Pass is reported snow free from Lee Vining to the Yosemite entrance, closed beyond.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby quentinc » Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:51 pm

tim wrote:I
Also there's a report on the Whitney Portal site that Horseshoe Meadows, Onion Valley & Whitney Portal roads will all open officially on April 27 (though the latter two are apparently unofficially open already). For Horseshoe Meadows that's also about 6 weeks earlier than last year.


That's incredible. Last year I think Horseshoe opened on June 16 or 17, so it's even more than 6 weeks. Now I'm really tempted to head up there next weekend.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby Bluewater » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:38 pm

Thanks for the weather updates! I have permits to head to Miter Basin out of Horseshoe Meadows in late May and It looks like NAP will be passable by then.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby DoyleWDonehoo » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:12 am

Is it time to start up the Skeeter Report (with the scale explanation) yet? :D
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby markskor » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:50 am

Doyle,
Great idea...thanks!
Done.
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Re: Snow conditions above 9k and this heat wave

Postby tim » Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:48 pm

Glacier Point road is opening at 5pm today, which is the earliest in the NPS record (though data only goes back to 1995): http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tiogaopen.htm

So we should start the speculation about the Tioga Road - my guess is it could be as early as next Friday April 27 assuming that Olmsted Point is as relatively free of snow as similar aspects on the Sentinel Dome webcam suggest (though with some precipitation in the forecast for next week that might be a little optimistic).
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