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Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:35 pm
by RoguePhotonic
I don't think the one above Cartridge Creek should be too hard to get to. I plan to go there this summer.
I've thought about those lakes around Marion & State Peaks looking down on them from both Marion and Arrow Peaks. They do look like a pain to reach. Never been there and not so sure I would ever try.
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:43 pm
by sparky
JD: Which picture is of middle fork goodale creek? The last one?
Visited the lake on the north fork goodale creek, it was nice. The tarn shown on the topo above it was dry in Oct 2012. It is also probably very seldom visited as Taboose or Armstrong is a much better route for peaks in the area.
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:31 am
by John Dittli
Yes Sparky, the last one. Good on ya for visiting the one in the Nfk. I had my eye on that one as well. Is the peak in your photo on the divide between N and middle fk?
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:56 am
by sparky
Correct
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:22 am
by John Dittli
nice!
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:49 pm
by maverick
Hi JD,
That lake was very pretty and the peak was just spectacular. Hope to get back there
with my gear one day. Lake on South Fork of Goodale looks promising on the map too.
The whole canyon was ablaze with fall colors when Sparky and myself went on our
search for Larry, some of the best fall color displays that I have ever witnessed.
Only problem is that you need a high clearance vehicle because the road from Taboose
is extremely rough, four wheel drive would be even better, don't even think about
attempting it with a regular passenger vehicle, though one could drive up as far as
they could get from Goodale Creek Campground and hike the remainder of the way.
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:10 am
by wildhiker
Wandering Daisy wrote:Below 11,000, not a "tarn" which I take to mean not a little pond, and a lake that I have camped at, elimitates many of my remote locations. Here is what is left:
...
Lost Lakes SW of Koip Crest
I took my kids camping to the Lost Lakes SW of Koip Crest in about 1994. The cross-country route was written up in a Wilderness Press guidebook, so I am sure many others have been there, too.
-Phil
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:20 am
by wildhiker
Ikan Mas wrote:I have found obsidion many places in the Sierras. Although the numbers of Native Americans in the mountains was probably never large, they were there for 10,000 to 20,000 years, depending on what theory you subscribe to. Of course for some of this time the mountains were under glaciers, but they were here for a long time. They knew all the major passes and probably roamed quite widely.
Two years ago as my brother and I hiked down Kerrick Meadows we noted that we found obsidion at every place we stopped. So we began to think about it more deeply. We liked to stop a places with a nice view and water nearby. We also liked to find a nice smooth rock to sit on. We realized that our needs were the same as theirs. Think about about this a you pull over for a break. The somewhat sparse grass cover in Kerrick made finding the obsidion very easy.
Last summer at Summit Lake above the San Joaquin River, one end of the lake was thoroughly covered with obsidion. I took this spot as a trading or rendevous point. There must of been lots of people here over the years.
There are obsidian "flakes" (small pieces) all over the high sierra for many miles radius around the Mammoth Mountain area. I found them all over the ground in the Mono Pass (Yosemite) area, for example. I asked a geology professor I know about them. She said they are due to a major volcanic explosion from one of those volcanoes south of Mono Lake a few thousand years ago. They are NOT from native americans dropping them everywhere. Now, if you find an actual worked arrowhead, that is another story. We found one in the Tuolumne River in Lyell Canyon once. I made the kids put it back.
-Phil
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:52 am
by oldranger
Wildhiker wrote:
They are NOT from native americans dropping them everywhere. Now, if you find an actual worked arrowhead, that is another story. We found one in the Tuolumne River in Lyell Canyon once. I made the kids put it back.
So it is just coincidence that there is a concentration of flakes (with no actual points)at obviously attractive sites?
Kudos on kepping the point at the site!
Mike
Re: The least visited lake.
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:47 am
by rlown
think of several thousands of big a$$ rocks of obsidian spitting out of a volcano, thousands of feet in the air (remember volcano) and then touching down miles away and shattering. One could see that maybe that happened before locals found it and worked it, but it's everywhere if you look around that area.
point work is the key. not just obsidian flakes.