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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby giantbrookie » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:35 pm

I have been over the crest very close to pass B. The best class 2 route is actually just a bit south of what is labeled as pass B and if coming from the west you approach from the northernmost of the little cluster of unnamed lakes above Ram Lakes. The west side is easy class 2 talus the east side is steep class 2 ledges and some talus for the upper 200' or so. My wife and I went into the Ram Lakes Basin this way from Convict Canyon. Our route also featured the passage up the slot canyon outlet of Lake Genevieve. This was one of our favorite short cross country backpack trips. We improvised this trip when we were quota'd out on a trip further south along the east side.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby jrad » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:07 pm

I took a pack down to Cloverleaf from Ram Lakes area. Here's my exact spot:

1 - link to http://mapper.acme.com/
2 - enter "N 37.54226 W 118.91082" coordinate in search box for exact spot.

In future, I'd look at middle of that ridge. Here's coordinate: "N 37.54226 W 118.91082". I don't know. From the west, my route taken looked the easiest going up from West. From below and East looking back, I was thinking "Why did I not do the lowest part of the ridge - no chute, maybe all class 2! ?"

My actual route was down a 45 degree chute which made me a little nervous in spots. If with others, I'd have taken/used a rope (not belay but just for a backup in case of minor slip).

What I did was a bit of class 3, as it involved some careful hand and foot holds in several spots. No rope available. Exposure was not much but I could have slipped and broken something or loosed a boulder to fall on me. I was nervous for about 10 minutes since I was alone and nobody knew where I was.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby maverick » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:06 pm

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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby DoyleWDonehoo » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:30 pm

jrad wrote:I took a pack down to Cloverleaf from Ram Lakes area. Here's my exact spot:
1 - link to http://mapper.acme.com/
2 - enter "N 37.54226 W 118.91082" coordinate in search box for exact spot.
In future, I'd look at middle of that ridge. Here's coordinate: "N 37.54226 W 118.91082". I don't know. From the west, my route taken looked the easiest going up from West. From below and East looking back, I was thinking "Why did I not do the lowest part of the ridge - no chute, maybe all class 2! ?"
My actual route was down a 45 degree chute ...What I did was a bit of class 3...

This last fall I did some lite hiking in the Convict and McGee canyons, and I have long wanted go way back there. This led me to the idea of a Convict-McGee loop, especially after seeing Roguephotonic's excellent pictures of the area. The pass in question above can plainly be seen from the west in Rogue's picture here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/roguephot ... 781533126/
There looks like a lightly wooded ridge to the top of the pass at center picture, but I don't know about the conditions on the other side. The map suggest several routes down, but you know how that may go. "Pretty Pass" looks like a typical Secor talus slog listed as Class 2 but may really be Class 3 in places. Other routes suggested here can be seen with careful examination of Rogue's pictures, at least from the west side. Remember that Rogue's pictures are really quite large, and can be downloaded for a better look at the details.

Addendum: If you look at the above map and point, then look south-east to the words "Franklin Lake", look at the last "e" of Franklin on the map and you will see a low point on the ridge. It does not look appetizing on the west side on the map, but after looking at Rogue's pictures, it looks like there is a doable zig right and then zig left mostly talus free mostly dirt/scree route to the top on the west side, and on Google Earth and the map it looks fairly mild from the top all the way beyond to Bunny Lake. If it was workable, I would call it "Bunny Pass".
Actually, the easiest way across the crest is probably the NW shoulder of Red Slate Mountain.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby overheadx2 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:39 pm

I hiked to ram lakes last summer to fish. Fishing was ok but not great for 8 - 10 inch fish. Nice lakes with solitude relatively close to the TH. We camped at the inlet of Purple and didn't see any one for two days and caught more and better fish. We day hiked to Virginia and Ram lakes. There were several groups camped at the outlet of Purple lake, but absolutely no one at the far end since the inlet area is relatively tough to get to.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby SSSdave » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:10 am

We are going to be up there on day 7 on a 9-day trip out of Mammoth Lakes. I really like the look of that basin in other images I've seen in the past. Last year 3 of us base camped a couple days at Genevieve Lake and explored one morning about Cloverleaf. Lots of tedious talus to go through climbing over that ridge.

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I downloaded Rogues's original image then cropped this section that shows where you are thinking of climbing over that ridge. His image is from the west shore of no-name lake 3380+ as it lines up perfectly with this Google Earth image from that spot. I recognized the perspective immediately because I had looked at the GE perspective from the ridge 180 feet higher behind to the west that puts Bloody Mountain further up above the ridgeline and allows better views of the little lakes below. Will climb up for that pic at maybe 5pm.

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The crucial topo lines are difficult to see on the topo because of the red overlay and black BOUNDARY text.

What it does show that at the top of the ramp (orange arrow on topo) with the rusty rocks amid granite, a loose steep section makes the final section suspect. The critical area is edge on so Rogue's image doesn't help much.

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Google Earth distorts the area of the obvious ramp where it passes the face at ridgeline making it look way easier than the photo. An excellent example of why interpretting steep areas with GE is unreliable though in any case has value.

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On Google Earth with images enabled is this person's pic looking down from what they call Chadu Pass (magenta arrow on topo).

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Looks steeper on the map than appears on GE probably at least steep class 2 talus.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby jrad » Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:02 am

Doyle says: "Actually, the easiest way across the crest is probably the NW shoulder of Red Slate Mountain"

Having tried it, I'd say not.

I have crossed Mammoth Crest as noted above (2004 trip) - quick but unpleasant. I am planning to cross Pretty Pass East from Bunny Lake to Franklin Lakes and expect that to be by far the safest and easiest crossing.

I did cross last September West to East over Red Slate Mtn's NW shoulder down to Wit-so-nah-pah. I did not like it! It has one steep section where the old glacial remnants are and the talus is large and very loose. The alternative is to walk down ice (very steep and ... ice!) - no alternative at all. It took me 2 hours from the broad shoulder NW of Red Slate to get all the way to level ground near Wit-so-nah-pah. I had to be so careful and it was super tedious. I swore I'd never do it again (already forgetting how tedious it was) and would never do it East to West (1 step up and 1.5 steps down maybe).

It is a Class 2+ route but a very, very trying one when there is no snow to utilize.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby tomba » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:14 pm

jrad wrote:I am planning to cross Pretty Pass East from Bunny Lake to Franklin Lakes


Pretty Pass crosses from Lake Dorothy to Franklin Lake, not from Bunny Lake to Franklin Lake. I guess you are planning to traverse to Pretty Pass after climbing from Bunny Lake.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby butters » Tue May 10, 2016 3:56 pm

Chadu Pass is a more enjoyable skin in the winter! yesterday, we used to it trek over to franklin peak for a quick bag, then back to chadu pass and cruise back over to bloody pass, and from there up the relaxing relatively short south ridge of bloody mtn ending in an epic golden light shred sesh down bloody. ive got a ton of beta photos of ram/franklin basin, bunny area.. top of bloody has a great view.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby maverick » Tue May 10, 2016 4:03 pm

Hi Butters,

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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby tomba » Tue May 17, 2016 10:59 pm

How do you know that this pass is named Chadu Pass?

butters wrote:Chadu Pass is a more enjoyable in the winter! yesterday, we used to it trek over to franklin peak for a quick bag, then back to chadu pass and cruise back over to bloody pass, and from there up the relaxing relatively short south ridge of bloody mtn ending in an epic golden light shred sesh down bloody. ive got a ton of beta photos of ram/franklin basin, bunny area.. top of bloody has a great view.
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Re: Ram Lakes/Purple Lake Pass?

Postby butters » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:11 pm

photo from top of bloody. franklin looming in the back round. bottom right corner marked is chadu pass from the info i have gathered. also franklin peak is really named Mt. Mendenhall 12,242 ft. my buddies were searching uptop and found a tiny canister which was the summit register. only a dozen signatures since 1995. pretty cool
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