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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby oldranger » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:29 pm

rlown wrote:
Just don't be the highest thing around.


or under the highest thing around or under an overhanging rock. (why the overhanging rock? Because you have a good chance of becoming the chosen path of the lightening if lightening were to strike the rock!)

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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby balzaccom » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:47 pm

robnsuzyq wrote:Well, if I read the requirement right, its not a high bear area, and not required to can it. Also, after talking to the REI people (customers and staff) they recommended the odor bags, so i bought a bunch of those, and am going to double bag the food and hang it? Along with all the fun stuff like tolietries and meds and such.



Just an FYI--when you get your permit, they will ask you, point blank, if you have a bear canister or if you are going to double hang your food. There is no option C.
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby RobertD » Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:57 am

Have a link to proper hanging tech or ?
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby Wandering Daisy » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:07 am

I must be a "bear magnet" because over tha last 10 years in the Sierra I have seen and actually encounterd (standing face-to-face) with as much as 8 bears a day! Perhaps I see more bear because I have encountered more bear, therefore, I really keep an eye out for bears. Anywhere in or around Yosemite, I see bear almost daily. I would recommend a Ursack or bear cannister. "Simple" hanging food counter balance method is really a pain to do- not very "simple" at all and it has to be really perfect to work. If you just hang food, you tend to choose campsites based on hanging trees- sometimes missing better campsites with better views. If you can rent a Bear-i-kade, it is almost a pound lighter than the others. I think it is a good idea to rent bear cans before buying- this way you get to try out each kind. Sequoia-Kings Canyon rents Bear-i-kades- am not sure if Yosemite does. At any rate, hanging food may suffice for this trip, but if you continue, at some point you will be in areas that require the cannister.
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby rlown » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:18 pm

Rob,

Are you still going? Looks like the storm might be out by Monday. Just wondering..

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PS: rent a can..
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby RobertD » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:56 pm

Yes, we are still going. Heading out tomorrow to camp at Clover meadow or somewhere close, and head out monday.

Packs are way over weight, at least for me, so its going to be a **** climb i fear.
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby rlown » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:03 pm

my pack is at 28lbs for the basics in the pack, 11lbs in the can for the food, and 10-15 lbs of other stuff we decide at the trailhead (think float tube, waders and rain pants). It'll still end up at 52, for some reason.. It always does for a week long trip.

If your dogs distract you when the lightning happens, you might consider leaving them back, and having someone care for them. That will help you focus on the task at hand.

Have a great trip! Don't worry too much about lightning, but be prepared for the rain at first.
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby RobertD » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:20 pm

Thank you for saying that... My pack is 47 and hers is 28, and we will be taking the doggies, they will just have to deal with it.

Should be a blast, and ill take lots of pics and post my first ever TR when I get back.

I hope the fishing is as good as everyone says, I am bring tackle and planning on a plate of garlic trout!
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby Ken M » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:29 pm

Did they ever come out?

Did the wife leave him?

Did the bears have a feast?

I was rangering up there that year, and I don't remember having to SAR anyone out then.
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby Troutdog 59 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:16 am

Dont know about the wife part, but the did make it out, they didn't get eaten by bears, and they posted a TR here.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7039&p=49414#p49408

2011 was a wierd weather year. I hope they decided to keep trying.
If you stand in the light, you get the feel of the night, and the music that plays in your ear......
In your mind you can hear, a voice so sweet and clear, and the music that plays in your head......
As it flows up from the ground, taking all that hear the sound, close your eyes, it’s about to begin.

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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby Ken M » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Troutdog 59 wrote:Dont know about the wife part, but the did make it out, they didn't get eaten by bears, and they posted a TR here.

http://www.highsierratopix.com/communit ... 414#p49408

2011 was a wierd weather year. I hope they decided to keep trying.


You know, I look at their TR, and can't help but say that it was predictable. And they were very lucky. Most dogs go absolutely apesh*t when caught in a thunderstorm. They kept dry (but not warm).

In my experience, a trip like this is the last trip of their lives for first timers.

I wonder about being encouraging to people who want to do this.....first backpack, owning no gear, going out for 5 days, with the complication of dogs. Didn't check the weather, or know about it. Headed out to a predicted storm. Didn't know what that meant.

Brought the wrong sleeping bags, probably didn't know how to use them effectively.

Footwear that didn't fit, and no knowledge of how to deal with it. (ugh!)

All trivial stuff to experienced people, I'm sure.

I'm just concerned about the process, here, of encouraging such things, as opposed to encouraging a measured gradually increasing process of longer trips.

When I was stationed at Whitney Portal for two weeks, Several years back, doing the Altitude project, I was astonished by the hordes of people who clearly had no clue about backpacking---going out for their first. And last. Worse, was dragging the unfortunate spouse/SO.

This sort of thing probably creates a cadre of people ready to ABOLISH wilderness, in an attempt to save mankind (or revenge!)
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Re: Lillian Lake Loop next month

Postby rlown » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:13 pm

Not really sure what the message is here. No one really appreciates the "captain hindsight" approach. This was an old thread.
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