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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby mokelumnekid » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:07 pm

As much as I support anyone who elects to serve their country in ways that are legal and responsible- sorry, I don't buy into the "cut them some slack" approach with the dog. The rules are clear and there for everyone, it is as simple as that. That is how we manage a complex and very diverse group of users in the back country. You accepted that responsibility when you signed the wilderness permit. If you don't agree with it, change the laws, or find great destination in the National Forests like everyone else who likes packing with their dogs. There are many of them. There are a lot of things about the way the back country in the National Parks are managed that I don't agree with, but you sign the permit, you choose to take that responsibility. And if I can't abide the rules of the day I go somewhere else.

Great trip report, glad that everyone had a enjoyable and safe journey.



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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby frediver » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:50 am

That was definitely an assistance dog, all it takes is a note from a medic.
Any dog can qualify as long as a medic says the animal is necessary for the owners well being.
That said: if the dog is not under control and is found chasing game expect it to be shot!
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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby Ozark Flip » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:48 am

I really enjoyed your report Bill. And, having served 6-years myself, I fall under the “cut the Purple Heart recipients some slack”. We owe these guys! I never do the Motel thingy but I always stop by La Casita in Bishop upon return from my trips. Problem is, I can never finish the large portions….great place, set at the bar, eat, drink and listen to Vin Scully. God Bless America!
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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby whrdafamI? » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:39 pm

Thankyou to all who enjoyed the report, took the time to say so and didn't feel the need to take on a "corrective role".
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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby BBchris » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:42 pm

Bill,
I'm glad that you guys had a good trip. We met you just above Darwin Bench (My girlfiend and I (Chris and Mallory)). Thanks for the tips on passing through the lakes and the col.
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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby Cross Country » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:57 pm

Almost no one ever "deserves" special treatment and is above the law. We are not a country of justice. We are a country of laws and virtually everyone is expected to follow the law or accept the consequences.
I haven't always followed the rules -- far from it, but I was always willing to accept the consequences if caught, and without complaining.
I hope everyone here understands the "country of justice" thing.
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Postby Vaca Russ » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:52 am

Bill Morell wrote:If that doesn't earn Gary and his dog something in this country I don't know what does.


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Re: North Lake, over Lamarck Col. back out over Piute Pass TR

Postby whrdafamI? » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:50 pm

Cross Country wrote:Almost no one ever "deserves" special treatment and is above the law. We are not a country of justice. We are a country of laws and virtually everyone is expected to follow the law or accept the consequences.
I haven't always followed the rules -- far from it, but I was always willing to accept the consequences if caught, and without complaining.
I hope everyone here understands the "country of justice" thing.


I understand what you mean. However what part of "We simply didn't care" is so hard to understand? It means that if we had been caught by Mr. Ranger then go ahead and write the damn ticket. I have seen behavior by people many times in NP's that was by far much worse then any poop dropped by Dude.
BTW, we buried Dudes poop just as we did ours in the proper manner.
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