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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby BSquared » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:53 am

It strikes me that this sort of overdue incident is an excellent reason for carrying a SPOT. One would agree in advance with the "backup team" that the "help" button (as opposed to the "911" button) means "I'm in trouble but I can get myself out; don't call the rangers yet, but thing's aren't going as planned." Then, when the weather closes in, hit it, and then send a string of OK's (or more "helps" depending on the agreement) as you make your way to the nearest trailhead.
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby TehipiteTom » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:54 am

I've always used an external frame pack; I'm pretty sure these newfangled "internal frame" doohickies are just a fad.
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby sierramel » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:42 pm

"mokelumnekid" I usually bring the whole thing. if I tell ya what I bring you'll laugh me otta here! But in the end it is about taking responsibility for one's self."

I bring it all. The four season tent, gore-tex, gaiters, 10 degree bag, down jacket, 4 season tights, wool hat, sox and gloves, and a sheet of ty-vek.
I've been caught out too many times in extreme weather at the higher elevations. One year (long ago) I was caught in a two day snow storm, in mid-June, near Vogelsang. The main problem I had in that, was having to keep chasing away a bear who wanted the food I was having to stay inside with in my tent. (no bear canisters back then)
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby maverick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:04 pm

Sierramel wrote " The main problem I had in that, was having to keep chasing
away a bear who wanted the food I was having to stay inside with in my tent"
(no bear canisters back then)".
You must have had a really fun night chasing that bear off every couple of
minutes.
I was camped at 1000 Is Lake, and this couple must have had food in the tent
because starting at 10 pm, and continuing on till at least 2 am, I finally fell
asleep, the bear came back every 15 min's, the yelling, and screaming began.
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby ndwoods » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:57 am

Guess we ought to start a frame thread...grin. My pack and backup pack are both internals...less than 3lb each. But, I would carry an external if I could get one comfortable enough and light enough...I loved my old kelty. The last kelty I sold which wasn't that long ago just rested the bar on my lower back no matter what I did with the waist belt. Also, I do do so much off trail that my external did get caught a time or 2 on rocks and almost throw me....still they are so convenient...all those pockets outside etc...
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby sierramel » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:25 pm

Maverick...
Picture this: Single wall, 4 season, one person tent - very small vestibule. Large bear.
All night long - flashlight on, playing cassette tape recorder, max volumne, and talking to myself in the meantime. Change batteries.
Bear returns every 1/2 hour or so during nights. Pops jaws outside waiting for me to fall asleep and tent to get dark. Tough luck, bear.
Day 3 snow stops, and I run like hell all the way down to Merced Lake where bear boxes are and sleep for 2 days.

I carried an internal frame pack as soon as they started making them. Short, female, low center of gravity.
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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby SSSdave » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:18 pm

Another group of hikers thinking they were going to do Whitney as a dayhike. Will be interesting to see what kind of gear they were carrying. Had to be light to do so, thus if they are in the stone shelter, must be miserably cold.

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Re: hiker caught in last week's snowstorm

Postby sirlight » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:41 pm

I am also wondering what kind of gear they had with them.

I was on Whitney about 4 years ago after completing the high sierra trail. Even though it was only the end of august, I was shocked how little gear some of these people were carrying. Guess it's "only" a day hike.

Hiking Whitney this time of year without enough gear to spend a couple nights is just plain nuts!
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