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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby balzaccom » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:02 am

This looks like a more reasonable route for a first trip into the SIerra. ANd I htink you are right---it looks like you should be able to go up the west face of the Mt. in the middle there, and that would make a nice adventure for one of the days.

As for clothing---I bring an underarmor long sleeved shirt to sleep in--but it can also be worn if it get really cold. And then a short sleeved hiking shirt for most days---and a fleece, and a very light rain shell. That means that when it gets really cold, I will be wearing all four, but most of the time it's a combination of one or two...

And be prepared for bugs. Bring some DEET and maybe even a head net...
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Take-a-Hike » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:17 pm

If all else fails and u r heading to Dinkey area or Edison...you have to go right by the Ranger Station in Prather on 168. U'll need a permit anyway. Stop in and ask if they have any intel on snow conditions. Remember, Doyle did the Pioneer Basin trip early season and seemed to be ok due to it being a south facing terrain.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Shawn » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:12 pm

ltkenbo - The Dinkey Lakes area is a beautful place, no doubt you'll really enjoy it with your Dad. Your route looks like a nice trip with plenty to see (Cliff Lake is really nice). Have a great time.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:15 am

Thanks guys, do you think it's worth it to send $5 in the mail to register ahead of time? Do you think the trails will fill up?
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:33 pm

Anyone? And also do you think we should head up the day before and stay somewhere (my dad lives down in Temecula near San Diego) or leave at like midnight and drive all night?
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Postby balzaccom » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:44 pm

Go up the day before. It's no fun to hike on three hours of sleep. Dinkey Lakes won't be an exhausting trip, but start out with a good night's sleep, and a chance to get acclimated a bit to eht elevation. It will make a big difference on the first day's hike
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:43 am

Ok, cool, we'll do that. Anywhere you would recommend we could stay nearby the day/night before?

Also do you think it's worth it to mail in advance for the permit?
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Shawn » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:22 pm

It's hard to imagine the trail quota would be full upon arrival. If it were me, I'd:

1. Phone the ranger station in advance and talk to them about your needs/permit issues
2. Car camp near the trail head the night before
3. Read the logistical info here: http://www.summitpost.org/logistical-ce ... rvoir.html

Here's a pic of Courtright - there are restrooms just behind where the pic was taken.
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Here's a wide shot of Courtright.
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Here's a pic of Cliff Lake from above -
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby MountainMinstrel » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:01 pm

We went to Cliff lake the 24th & 25th of June in 2007. We were the only people at Cliff and saw no one else on the trail so I would not be too concerned about getting a permit. There are a couple of camp spots just before you leave Courtright Reservoir. It is about 1.3 miles from the trailhead and has this view.
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Here is a view from the other side of Cliff Lake.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:13 pm

Sweet photos. So there are a regular car camping sites there? Marmot rock, Voyager rock, Trapper springs I guess from what I can see on the map? Oh and where is the permit office?
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Take-a-Hike » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:40 pm

ranger station that I know of is in Prather...right on route 168..call them for open hours. Wife 'n I have good results spending night before/after in Clovis, Quality Inn, some such place. Then getting up early, but I always reserve permit, then call them day before and NFS rangers will leave permit in drop box for after hours pick up. Don't ever ask NPS folks to do that...wasting your breath. Prather is enroute to Shaver Lake where u have to turn off to whatever destination you choose. We went to Courtright last early July...lots of people there, but I believe there were sites available. I"ve never car camped/camped in those places so I can't be reliable about them. Courtright is about a 1 1/2 to 2 hour drive from Clovis due to the road from Shaver in. NOt a bad road...just a long way in. We've never had luck or even tried to find a place to stay in Shaver...probably booked up year in advance and $$$ey. On our 2nd trip last year, we were heading to Vermillion Valley at Edison, getting gas about 200 yds from the ranger station, they called my cell phone wanted to know if we were coming to pick up the permit...someone wanted it...told them to keep their shirt on...we were right across the road getting gas. We picked it up and drove to Vermillion..another E ticket ride my wife hates, and spent the night in one of their trailors. But this trip was in peak season of mid August, you most likely won't have any where near those issues.
You'll go right by our house on the way from Temecula...we're exactly 2 hours up from Temecula and it's right at 3 1/2 hours from my house to Fresno (I don't mess around, have good bladder) where u turn off to get to 168. Get directions.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:48 pm

Ok so me and my dad went on our trip last Thursday (well we started it Friday morning) and got back today. It was very fun but there were a couple disappointments. We never actually made it to the dinkey lakes themselves. I will explain.

The first day we hiked from the cliff lake trail head to helms meadow and stayed in helms meadow.

The second day we hiked out of helms meadow and we were going to take the trail that goes towards bullfrog lake to get to the lakes regions we followed the map and reached the split where there were signs, one towards bullfrog and the other pointing to rock meadow and telling the distances of other lake. However, for the life of us we could not find the bullfrog lake trail. We saw the sign and the map, and started to follow it but it just disappeared. We searched for over an hour and a half and could not find it. There were so many fallen trees everywhere we figured that it had been mostly hidden or destroyed over the winter. We did though see a very interesting old abandoned log cabin which looked like it was from early 1900's late 1800's. By the time we finished searching we decided that we would take the trail north as originally planed around the north side of dog tooth the next day, so we stayed near that cabin that night.

The third day we started to take the trail north past the split but found again that after a little bit the trail just disappeared. I knew the general direction of where we wanted to go, but since we didn't have a GPS and this was the first time and the third day, we did not feel comfortable venturing into the unknown with just a map, compass and altimeter (I didn't feel like being stuck in the wilderness lol). So we decided to head back toward courtright. So we hiked back and stayed at a nice little spot right off of the north side of courtright and we stayed there the third and fourth day and hiked out today.

So, it was kind of frustrating but I figured it had to do with the fact that there were still not official reports from the rangers meaning they hadn't checked out the trails yet. So we decided that next year we will probably try this again a little later in the season when the trails will be good and with a GPS.

Let me know what you think and if any of you ever had similar problems. We still had fun but I wish we could have seen the lakes.

Oh and does anyone know anything about that old abandoned cabin? Who used it, what year, etc.?

I'll post some pictures when I can.
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