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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:48 am

anyone?



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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby walkdawg » Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:03 am

My guess is that there are still winter conditions in the high country there. I would consider changing to a lower elevation area such as Northwest Yosemite, South Yosemite or the area in SEKI that I recommended.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby balzaccom » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:17 pm

I will be more specific.

At 11.000 feet those passes will be full of snow in two weeks. And the north side of any pass at that elevation will also be full of snow--probably from 9,000 on up. If you are sure that you can hike up steep snowy slopes and will always find the trail, then the trip might work.

I have a ton of experience in the Sierra, and I would not do this trip with people who were not really prepared--which means either crampons or the willingness to back off and head to lower elevations if it got hairy.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby balzaccom » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:49 pm

Here's another way of looking at it. This photo was shot at 8500 feet last weekend...

Can you see the trail?

http://picasaweb.google.com/balzaccom/E ... 4514743570
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Take-a-Hike » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:15 pm

First of all...I'm old enough to be your dad...58. Wife 'n I STARTED b packing when we were 51/52. Our first summer, 2nd trip out, we did the loop u r looking at...mostly. For a little more info, and I can't figure why someone else here didn't clue you in, but a major contributor to this site, Doyle Donohoe, has a web site, sierra-trials.com, and he has this trip and another to Pioneer Basin detailed in a very nice trip report. Both trips start/end at Edison.
Regarding the area, there's a "resort" so to speak, at Edison...Vermillion Valley Resort. They also have a web site w/contact info. Google VVR. Nice country store, restaurant and some rooms to rent. Great folks there. Call them up to see if they're open and running the ferry...otherwise it's another grunt walk around the lake.
OUr trip started at Edison, we got to Gr.yd meadows first nite, Gryd lakes 2nd nite...did a lot of exploring around the area that 2nd day as it was a short few miles. Then we went up 'n over the offtrail pass past Upper Graveyard lake to Peter Panda Lake. My wife still loves that lake the best of all we've been to in the Sierras. We spent two nites there. That pass over to PP is very easy as off trial stuff goes. It's very obvious once you get to the upper lake...there's a series of ledges and ramps that lead to an obvious saddle on the horizon...it faces south so snow probably won't be an issue and the pass is about 10.5K. However...there will be a snowfield on north side. There was in Aug when we went over, but it was easily circumvented and soft as well. But route finding wont be an issue...u can see the small lake you need to go around and the trail to Peter Panda is just on the other side of that small lake. Fifth nite we stayed at Wilbur May Lake, which I wouldn't do again. Doyle liked it, we could have done w/out it. But as mentioned elsewhere here, the Indian Lakes were very pretty and worth a little exploring. We beat feet outta there last day going from WM out to the ferry with an hour to spare up 'n over Silver Pass. (If running, ferry departs east side about 4:30pm I think).
Also, Mono Creek trail is nice w/side trips up to Laurel Lake, (we did that last summer), or the Pioneer Basin, if inclined.
One other thing, crossing the NF Mono Creek might be dicey in spots. WE found a log for one spot...others, good luck.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:29 pm

Well from what everyone else is saying I should pick another area because of the snow at this time of year, but yeah I did get the idea for the loop from that sierra trails website. So, any suggestions, I know there has been a couple already, but looking for input from anybody.

Another thing I don't get is a some of these other places you are telling me are still around 9-10k feet.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:20 am

Ok what about this one, it seems pretty neat.

http://sierra-trails.com/sawtooth/sawtooth01.htm

In sequoia national park. Starts at mineral king, heads through timber gap, and then up and around to pinto lake, then through black rock pass and by the little and big five lakes, then down through lost canyon, over sawtooth pass, past monarch lakes and then back to the start.

What do you think? Better location snow wise? Also how far do you think this whole thing is?
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby Shawn » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:22 pm


Mon May 25, 2009 3:43 pm

Me and my dad are planning on going backpacking somewhere in the Sierra National Forest in a couple of weeks.


A couple of weeks has elapsed. If you can wait another two or three weeks the snow won't be as much of an issue.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:25 pm

Thanks but that isn't very helpful, no I can't wait longer because I am flying out to visit my dad in California, for 2 weeks on Thursday. The time is already set.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:40 pm

But yeah so what do you think of that route?
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby balzaccom » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:58 pm

I think there will still be a lot of snow above 10,000 feet--and sawtooth pass is 11,600.

Most of the previous suggestions have been for routes that are at lower elevations--because at this time of the year, there's still a lot of snow up high. Picking a different route at high elevation isn't going to change that.
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Re: Suggested Routes or Areas for me and my dad

Postby ltkenbo » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:14 pm

Well when I looked at the maps on some of the other areas suggested like SEKI a lot still crossed 10,000 feet around sometime. But I am considering Dinkey Lakes like windknot suggested, and I figure as long as we stay below 9,000-10,000 ft. we shouldn't encounter any troublesome snow. Also, what should we pack as far as clothing? I mean obviously a raincoat, but like will a raincoat and a REI marmot "fleece" top be enough as far as jackets and stuff goes?

And I made a map of a possible route. It doesn't include possible day hikes, just a main route, and it's not above 10,000 feet. Some parts are around 9,000 but we can always change stuff. Sorry, I'm new at all of this lol, and thanks for all the advice and patience. I figure this route is maybe somewhere around 12 miles?? And with day hikes to the lakes and stuff several more.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa12 ... sRoute.jpg
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