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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby John Dittli » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:18 am

fishmonger wrote:That said - I came here searching for some Alpine Col ski info - seems like in winter this pass gets a lot of use to get into the Muir Pass region. Which one is easier in April - Alpine Col or Lamarck? From what I can tell online they seem to be about the same with local conditions such as cornices making all the difference, but slope angles appear similar.


Other than the fact you have to go over two passes rather than one to get in from the Eastside, Alpine Col is easier than Lamark: I have never seen it with a cornice, it lacks the two steep sections of Lamark and most importantly in my book, it most always has snow on both sides (in the snow season). Lamark on the other hand, is usually "burnt/blown out" on the SW side for a long way, requiring a lot of booting.
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby fishmonger » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:56 pm

John Dittli wrote:Alpine Col is easier than Lamark


my kind of pass :D - Black Giant just moved up a few notches on my list of April tour choices. I found a report of a trip to Göthe peak here and compared to the summit descents they chose, the pass appears like a relatively mild route. Also found this trip report video from about 3 weeks ago - http://youtu.be/iUj2zAl2h0w Alpine Col is 3 mins into it. The descent doesn't look bad at all (but then there is that backpack...). Lamarck Col is around 4:40 into the video, I think, and from the little you see it appears like there's no snow on top.
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby John Dittli » Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:26 pm

I think I know that guy. Actually more snow then I would have expected on Lamark.

Black Giant is a great choice, here's some photos you might like; Somewhere in the slide archives I've got some Kodachrome of skiing Goethe, but the scanner is at Nikon repair....

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from summit of Black Giant

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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby fishmonger » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:02 am

I've seen those winter shots from Black Giant before, which is why the mountain has remained on my bucket list. My kind of slope angle, great view, right next to my favorite pass in the Sierra.

I wouldn't be surprised if you do know the people who posted the reports. The photos are from Dan Mingori who co-authored the Backcountry Skiing California's Easter Sierra Guide book, which I have here on my kitchen table (right next to Staying Alive in Avalanche Country :eek: ). The person who made the youtube video appears to be a guide for Sierra Mountain Center.
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby seeker2 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:23 pm

It is 'Göthe' not 'Göethe' ... :D
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:43 pm

It is 'Göthe' not 'Göethe' ... :D


Hi Seeker2,

Welcome to HST! That is incorrect, the peak was named after Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German poet, in 1949. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wo ... von_Goethe
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby rlown » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:24 pm

Mav, Adding this link as it's more direct on the peak reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Goethe
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Re: Alpine Col from Göethe Lake

Postby ironmike » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:59 pm

maverick wrote:
It is 'Göthe' not 'Göethe' ... :D


Hi Seeker2,

Welcome to HST! That is incorrect, the peak was named after Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, German poet, in 1949. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wo ... von_Goethe


Seeker2 is *exactly* correct, as gdurkee and fishmonger have discussed above. Goethe is an Anglicized spelling. You can't put an umlaut over the 'o', unless you remove the 'e'. Göethe makes no sense in any language...
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