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Mosquitos?

Postby cgundersen » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:13 pm

And, how much DEET or lemon oil have folks been going through lately?



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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby TehipiteTom » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:18 pm

cgundersen wrote:And, how much DEET or lemon oil have folks been going through lately?

I don't use DEET. I used to, but the mosquitoes would just hover six inches away from me, and I realized I would rather have them land on me so I can kill them.

I really like killing them.

Um, where was I? Oh yeah--lots of mosquitoes up in Mokelumne over the weekend. I don't think I killed more than 6 of them with any single swat, so, not the worst I've ever seen, but about as bad as you'd expect from early season.
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby cgundersen » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:06 pm

Hi Tom,
I'm not a big fan of DEET, either. But my wife is, and we're planning to be out 10 nights (in the smoke; but we're from LA, so our lungs are used to it), so I'm re-thinking how much we'll need..........
Arrgh!
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby maverick » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:44 pm

I carry a small plastic pill bottle size and dab some on my cheek and chin.
I treat/spray my bandana(which over my head under my hat covering my ears and neck)
hat, pants, shirt, and socks with permethrin and have a 3 oz windbreaker handy if it really
gets bad.
When Im moving they do not bother me much but in the morning and evening
its another story.
Going to the Ladder Lake area?
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby Snow Nymph » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:26 pm

I have a small spray bottle of Off Unscented (and use as little as possible). I try to wear a long sleeve shirt if its not too hot, and just spray my legs. The past few weeks I've been breathing in deet on others and have developed an annoying cough and having trouble breathing at times. I carry a small container of Prep H and dab it on if I get bit. It doesn't swell or itch as long as you don't scratch it.
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby Trekker » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:09 am

People vary in their attractiveness to mosquitoes, so everyone is going to have to determine where they fall on that scale. Personally, for me anything less than 23-25% DEET is a waste of time. If things like Lemon oil and Citronella work for you, mosquitoes most probably don't like you much to begin with, and/or you're using a very concentrated solution and you're applying it frequently. Since sweat and breath contain attractants to mosquitoes and other bugs (which DEET masks), don't sweat and don't breathe! Of course that's problematic, so if you can at least decrease the amount you sweat, you'll probably help yourself somewhat (gung ho peakbaggers, take note!) Personally, I wouldn't want to let mosquitoes bite me if I can help it; if you check the CDC map of the spread of the West Nile Virus, you will see that it has been spreading up the Owens Valley, Sierra, and western foothills. That's in addition to the possibility of Encephalitis. Yeah, the possibility is kind of slim, but I would rather not take the chance.

If you don't want to wear DEET, get a head net and invest in some of the Ex Officio "BUZZ OFF" gear.
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby maverick » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:19 am

Hi Trekker

I agree with the head net, but the Buzz-Off gear I've read and heard does not always
keep the skeetrz off as permithren does not always work either.
I treat my long sleeve shirt a day before my trip and in some areas it will keep skeetrz
from landing on me in others its like I did not even treat my shirt.
When hiking in extreme skeeter areas I usually turn my head every so often to one side
to exhale and when in camp I wash off the sweat as soon as possible, these do work in
most cases.
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby Hikingjohn » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:25 pm

Does any one know the current mosquito or river flow conditions on the Glen Aulin trail in Yosemite?
I'm planning a trip on July 10.

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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby Trekker » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:33 am

If it's anything like what it was when we went down to the waterwheels in '97 at about the same time of year, be prepared for a lot of them! We used so much DEET my girlfriend looked like a zombie at the end of the trip from the combination of mosquitoes driving her crazy and being slathered in DEET! :eek: There's a lot of water and a lot of places for them to breed.
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby packmule » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:20 am

TehipiteTom wrote:
cgundersen wrote:And, how much DEET or lemon oil have folks been going through lately?


Um, where was I? Oh yeah--lots of mosquitoes up in Mokelumne over the weekend.


We too were in the Moke this weekend. In the morning you could hear them humming around. It was like someone put them on the surround sound. I used Deet (Moskul in a green bottle) and it worked great. I put it on maybe three times the whole trip. The backsides of my arms got it pretty bad were I missed with the Deet thou. I would say it is a must right now!
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby cgundersen » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:34 am

First, thanks to everyone for the heads up on the bugs, both here and under Maverick's post. I try to hold off on the DEET till it's a 4-5 on Mav's scale (even given that the bites I do get could be transmitting nasties), but my wife lathers up in the 1-2 range, so I just want to make sure we have enough chemicals.......

Second, Maverick, regarding your query about Ladder Lake, here I was obliged to go with the summer's #3 plan (my first preference was to head for the backside of the Kaweahs, mostly after the stunning photos you and Trailblazer posted; plan B was to do the lakes dotting the ridgeline south of Black Giant, including Ladder, Hester, etc and try to work down to Rambaud Pass and see how much time we had left). But, my wife has had an exhausting 6 months on the job and though she was game to head out for 10 nights, she wanted an easier start to the trip. Thus, we're going over Piute and will aim for Honeymoon Lakes (or even Ramona, if we're on a roll). From there we'll go into McGee basin and loop into the upper reaches of Ionian and then, if she's feeling brave, come back out over Echo col, if not, we'll do the tried & true over Lamarck. Obviously, there's a lot of room for flexibility to gauge the skeeterz, smoke and serenity factors. Anyway, I think that given the conditions in the Sierras right now, this is a decent plan, and we do have the option of trying for the Kaweahs in September, if the weather/smoke looks promising. Since we usually try to get out in June to avoid bugs and take advantage of the really cold lakes (frozen solid, on occasion), this will be a bit different, but I cannot wait to get my feet on some granite!
Cheers!
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Re: Mosquitos?

Postby maverick » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:10 pm

Sounds like a fun trip CG.
I to plan on visiting Kaweah Basin sometime this year, Id like to get to the upper lakes
in Red Spur Basin and find a route down to Red Spur Creek, but the fires are pushing
everything back so I may only be able to do 2 more trips and visit Kern Point Lake next year.
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