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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby obxcola » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:00 pm

Lake Reflection-lg.jpg
Buck Foresters reversed
I see that the reversal of Buck's photo was discovered years ago! Still seems perfect for April 1st.

I've reversed it back and matched it with a couple of photos that actually include the same rocks; so the location is the same. Hopefully these can be attached.

So anyone been down this chute?

Fingers crossed!
Lake Reflection-lg.jpg
Buck Foresters reversed
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Chute with Notes.jpg
Photo from slightly further right with same rocks as Bucks
The Lake Reflection Chute.jpg
Very similar but slightly left of Buck's photo



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Little Joe Pass

Postby obxcola » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:14 pm

Further research indicates this is likely the pass referred to by Bill Finch as "Little Joe Pass"
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby Wandering Daisy » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:22 pm

I went up the north side of Harrison Pass with a fairly heavy pack, and in tennis shoes with superfeet inserts. It took maybe 2 hours to get up. This was at a time that I had some foot problems and the tennis shoes were the only shoes that I could tolerate. Even with poor footgear, I got up. I had an ice axe which I used a lot- I would plant the axe deep and then haul myself up, repeat - until I got to the top! It is a bit miserable but one step at a time you get there. The only concern I would have would be if there still is snow all the way across late season when the snow is hard or ice. In that case it would be dangerous. Early snow probably would be soft and snow that you can kick a good step, particularly if it has suncups, would be quite easy. You would proably want to do it mid-day. But it is steep enough that you I would want an ice axe and be confident in self arrest. When I did it, there were only a few easily avoided patches of snow. I would say that the photos above of the other options look harder to me. The trail from East Lake to the base of Harrison Pass is partially wiped out by rockfall.
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby snowgoat » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:32 pm

obxcola- am very interested in "the chute" you're talking about. Ive heard it called class 2 and the easiest route over the divide. From the shots ive seen it looks long and loose though.
Hoping to do a week in Upper Kern and come back over one of the high passes. There's a couple of intermediates in our group and this chute may be more comfortable for them.
Anyone out there familiar with this route (Little Joe Pass)?
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby obxcola » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:45 am

Follow this link to look at photos all the way down the chute: http://www.scaruffi.com/monument/hikes10/gwdkk.html

Doesn't look all that loose to me as these things go.

the photos of this route begin about 2/3rd down the page below a full screen panorama labelled:
"Great Western Divide to Milly's Pass"

Nice photos too by the way.
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby oldranger » Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:02 pm

The following comment does not apply to the pics referred to here. Beware of some of scaruffi's photo labels. I have seen several over at least 2 different trips that incorrectly identify the scene in the photo. None-the-less the guy has been around and his pics do help you get the lay of the land.

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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby Cross Country » Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:15 pm

Having hiked (climbed?) down Lucy's Foot pass I can say I would rather have hiked up it. Going down was a bit scary and it certainly does have a lot of talas below it.
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby snowgoat » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:58 pm

Thanks for the link.
You're right- it doesnt look too loose or steep. Funny how the perspective changes though in the pics looking back up. It looks almost vertical, but is really a long gradual slope.
Am leaning towards trying it. Hope snow/ice wont be an issue by Aug. 13-22.
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby Trailguru » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:43 am

Funny that since I've originally posted this I still haven't had a chance to go to the upper Kern basin. 2008 turned out to be a bad year for me as far as hiking goes. But I already have several trips this year and we got people committed to it as well.

From what I can gather it seems that no matter what pass I choose (Mily's, Lucy's, Little Joe's or Harrison) they are all steep on the north side. Is that correct?


Also, since I'm going with a group with some who have limited off trail experience, what would be the easiest way down on the north side? We are going in late July so I'm hoping the snow wont' be as much of a obstacle as early in the season
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby oldranger » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:21 am

Unless there have been or will be significant climax type avalanches this year my guess is that your chances of no snow/ice on north side of passes as high and steep as these anytime this year will be between slim and none.

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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby maverick » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:44 am

Trailguru wrote "From what I can gather it seems that no matter what pass I choose
(Mily's, Lucy's, Little Joe's or Harrison) they are all steep on the north side.
Is that correct?
Yes, all are steep, with Harrison being the easiest, but with snow/ice it is dangerous.

"Also, since I'm going with a group with some who have limited off trail experience
what would be the easiest way down on the north side? We are going in late July so
I'm hoping the snow wont' be as much of a obstacle as early in the season."
I would highly discourage you to try any of these passes with a bunch of inexperienced
folks!
Even Harrison can be uncomfortable for folks with experience, and very difficult
with snow/ice, you need to be efficient with an ice axe, and know of to self arrest.
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Re: Question about Forester Pass and Lake South America

Postby Mike M. » Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:39 pm

Trailguru:

Because some in your group have limited off trail experience, and because of this year's extreme snowfall, I would recommend against any of these passes. They are challenging and steep, particularly scary going down from south to north. You can count on the presence of snow and ice in all of these passes this year in mid July. An alternative would be Milestone Pass and then Colby Pass. Another loop would be Forester Pass to Shepherd to Pass to Junction Pass, then back down Bubbs Creek.

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