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Postby Lewis » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:48 pm

funny, on a recent trip up to Minaret Lake, there was a empty bear cannister left near the trail. I picked it up and shook it, sure enough, it was heavy and empty !

There was no one around, and it was a sunday, I'm sure someone said "I ain't carrying this damn thing out, maybe someone may want it".

The only thing missing was a "FREE" sign !

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Not So, according to the calls I made

Postby dharter » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:17 pm

to the Yosemite Wilderness Office, Seki Wilderness Office, Sierra National Forest District Office and Inyo National Forest Wildermess Office (White Mountain Ranger District). No one I spoke with affirmed this requirement. As long as all food is in a canister, you are good to go!
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Postby markskor » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:56 pm

Just got back from Tuolumne area...great weather BTW... talked to the ranger (while getting my permit, he called over to Mammoth and asked right then), and YES!
He told me: As of now, from any entry into the Mammoth region (Reds Meadows and such), unless you are only doing an overnighter with one other person, every person must have a can in their possession in order to obtain a valid wilderness permit. They said that this is in effect for the remainder of this summer season, and probably will continue next season also.
The writing is on the wall and evident...buy/use a can.
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Postby Telkwa » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:41 pm

This is moronic. What is the point in forcing every member of a party to carry a can??
My wife and I have gone into the Sierras several times now on multi-day trips with one Garcia can. Patti is 4'11". She packs a little Kelty ST external. A freakin bear can would fill the main compartment. I'm not sure I could even wedge it in there without damaging the pack. If we could fit it in, she'd end up filling it with non-food items. Now that would be annoying.

I talked with a gal at the Sierra NF Prather station today regarding bear cans in the area NE of Edison reservoir, up by the Indian Lakes and Silver Pass. She hadn't heard anything about one can per person. Said they don't require bear cans at all, though of course they highly recommend, etc. etc.
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Postby TonyC » Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:14 pm

Hi this may be a dumb question, but do you need bear cannisters anywhere if you are just doing a dayhike? I think I saw on the Yosemite website that you don't need them for dayhikes and was curious if this is true all over the Sierra..thanks..
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Postby caddis » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:47 am

Since this isn't Park land, maybe a better rule would say one firearm per hiker.....or at least a choice of the two ;)
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Postby ndwoods » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:58 pm

My honey and I only needed one between us out of Cedar Grove last week. Anyway, you can get those mini cans by bear vault and bearikade so it won't be such a big deal. I tell you it sure was nice wondering thru the wilderness last week with tons of bear scat everywhere but not one pile had any sign of backpacker food and the bears were no where near camp spots....
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other ways around it

Postby dpmach » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:06 pm

I'd figure this is the best place to ask. Beside the cannisters how else might one be able to store food so that it is out of the reach of our neighborhood critters and bears? I'm starting to realize that having a cannister is such a hassle...
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Postby rightstar76 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:27 pm

There is the Ursack S29. It's a lightweight sack. The aluminum liner is optional. The only thing is the liner is required in some places like Rae Lakes in SEKI, etc. http://www.ursack.com
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