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Bear Canisters: ONE PER PERSON!

Postby mr.kurt » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:49 pm

Hey all. I just spoke with a ranger at the Mammoth Lakes Ranger Station. It seems that as of today, one bear canister is required per person, per trip, regardless of how short that trip may be. Apparently there has been a huge number of bear incidents this year, and a huge number of irresponsible people.

I don't know anymore than this, including specifics on locations. Does anyone have confirmation of this or know anything else?

-Kurt



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Postby markskor » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:01 pm

This does not seem fair/ (right)....an overnighter with the wife would then require 2 cans?
...or if one adult with two kids...3 cans?

I seriously doubt this "one can per person" rumor...too vague...
usually, the rules make sense.
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Postby cgundersen » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:00 am

Well, if this is true, it will certainly affect planning. My wife and I have the Bearikade cans that are great because each one holds ~5 days worth of food. But, they are pretty heavy and obviously on shorter trips we only take one can.

At the same time, if folks are being hugely irresponsible, I can see the authorities imposing rules that may be a bit draconian....
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Postby TehipiteTom » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:14 pm

This is why I avoid heavily impacted areas like Mammoth. There's a whole lot of high country that's just as pretty and isn't inundated with hikers (and, as a result, habituated bears).
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Postby caddis » Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:54 pm

Tell that ranger he needs to shoot a couple bears in the campground right behind his desk.
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Postby hikerduane » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:02 pm

Last year on my trip out of Mammoth, the only bear I saw was at the trailhead by the campground. Those folks there aren't up to speed, last year I had to tell the backcountry ranger how my TKO was supposed to be deployed while I was at Purple Lake. I gave her my email addy but never heard a word from her as she thought I wasn't being truthful on how my bag worked I think. She had her doubts, but I gave her the facts and sounded convincing I guess as she didn't ticket me.

My trip around the Rae Lakes Loop was the most people I have ever camped by. Nice at times talking with folks but the camp areas were heavily impacted I thought. The last night was the only night no one else was around and I was only a couple miles from the TH at that point. On to something else next year.
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Postby caddis » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:27 am

Spen last week with the family at the Shady Rest campground and we had two different bears roaming the campground in the middle of the day. One was walking straight into my camp while we were eating dinner. I don't know what was more irritating, the bears, or the camper that was hollering at me to bang pots and pans because it frightens the bears away.
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Postby mountaineer » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:46 am

I have never taken a bear cannister and never will. What a crock. I have been going into the wilderness since 1969 and have never had a bear get my food. Now, because of some knuckleheads, they are telling me I have to take some heavy can into the backcountry? I don't think so.
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Postby Strider » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:17 am

mountaineer wrote:I have never taken a bear cannister and never will. What a crock. I have been going into the wilderness since 1969 and have never had a bear get my food. Now, because of some knuckleheads, they are telling me I have to take some heavy can into the backcountry? I don't think so.


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Postby mountaineer » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:47 am

Strider wrote:
mountaineer wrote:I have never taken a bear cannister and never will. What a crock. I have been going into the wilderness since 1969 and have never had a bear get my food. Now, because of some knuckleheads, they are telling me I have to take some heavy can into the backcountry? I don't think so.


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Postby hikerduane » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:34 pm

Rabble rousers!
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Postby SSSdave » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:42 pm

Kurt, this isn't a new policy but rather has been the situation the last few years. Especially so in SEKI and Yosemite. There are still many trailheads and wilderness destinations where bear cannisters though may be highly recommended are not required. In fact there are many areas in the Eastern Sierra where there are still no bears at all, the legacy of decades past bear hunting and shooting. Ansel Adams Wilderness that I'm guessing you are referring to has been one of the required areas for some time now because of the growing bear population living off some of the lazy inhabitants and visitors of the Mammoth Lakes town and campgrounds. Those bears naturally migrated during summer into the nearby high country. ...David
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