Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by mbehlen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:03 am

Hey Gang!

I have my permit scheduled and I am ready! I just wanted to ask if you knew of anyone who had gone to this area recently? How's the smoke?

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by rightstar76 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:03 pm

Michael, it all depends on the weather conditions and fires. I used this link to see what the smoke conditions might be like closer to Sunday August 5:

https://tools.airfire.org/websky/v1/run ... 00/#viewer

On Thursday, as far out as the simulation will go, it shows Red Mountain Basin smoke free. However, when you put in yesterday's date, it shows it smoked out. And Maverick's pictures in the 2018 Fire and Smoke Impact Reports thread in the Conditions Reports and Information forum show Hume Lake and Buck Rock smoky yesterday 7/30. While that isn't Red Mountain Basin, it's in the same region.

You probably won't know until the day of your trip if it's going to be smoky or not. And it will change each day. This has been a lousy month for hiking as far as smoke goes. As various trip reports have shown, the smoke comes and goes. Hopefully, there won't be that much on your trip.

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by maverick » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:31 pm

Personally, I would not go to the Sierra as a photographer, but my standards are very high since I make a partial living from it, capturing a piece that is worthy of going into my gallery is hard enough, without having to deal with smoke on a day to day basis. After on a photography trip a decade ago, thru Lakes Basin, Dumbbell Lakes, and Amphitheater Lakes Basin, with the Tehipite Fire on-going, on which I had difficult breathing, runny/burning eyes, and could not see the Palisades from Cataract Pass, will not waste my time, effort, or subject my health to those conditions again.
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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by mbehlen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:25 pm

I agree with Maverick I'm just bummed. It's my only vacation this year. Any recommendations for another trip anywhere with 4 hours of Fresno? Most likely ill still go because if I don't I'll miss out this year. Thoughts on alternatives this last minute?

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by mbehlen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:30 pm

Fast Thinking: Maybe I'll go to Big Sur and do Cone Peak? I can hit the road Saturday Morning and have to be home Wed by 6pm.



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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by maverick » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:50 pm

Looking at the smoke and wind patterns for next couple of days, you may be okay, not totally smokeless, but not to bad, but with that said, the with Mendocino Complex Fire still growing and Horse Creek Fire adding smoke to the Ferguson Fire's, add in a wind shift, that could change things dramatically. :(

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by mbehlen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:59 pm

Thanks Maverick. I'll keep myself posted and watch and see what happens as the days move closer. Thank you for your help!

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by AlmostThere » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:24 pm

mbehlen wrote:Fast Thinking: Maybe I'll go to Big Sur and do Cone Peak? I can hit the road Saturday Morning and have to be home Wed by 6pm.



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The Ventana Wilderness in summer is not worth it, IMO. Hot and dry, buggy as all get out, tons of poison oak, tons of trail erosion every single year, and Cone Peak area is crowded. Ticks, ticks and more ticks, and oh, there's ticks... I swear to dog that I have yet to see the like of my poor doggo sitting there covered in them, after just a few minutes in the leaves.

But, that's me. I'll be in the DInkey this weekend regardless. Webcams are favorable thus far, this week.

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by mbehlen » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:31 pm

Hey AlmostThere,

Mind linking me to the webcams? After panicking through the afternoon I have calmed down a little bit and will head up to basin and just turn back if I need to.

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Re: Trip Advice: Devils Punchbowl and Hell for Sure Lake

Post by maverick » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 pm

Shaver Lake has nearest working webcam, doesn't look to good:
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