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Jennie Lakes Wilderness

Postby fyton2v » Wed May 16, 2007 3:46 pm

Hello! Noob here.

I was hoping someone here could clue me in on the expected conditions around Weaver and Jennie Lake in the Sequoia NP over Memorial Day weekend. I haven't hiked in the Sierra this early in the season and I'm not sure what to expect in the way of snow.

I'd like to make this an easy family overnight trek. I'd be toting the wife and kids. We will be OK for nighttime temps in the 30s, but we wouldn't be prepared for much snow. I called the local ranger station and they haven't been up that way this season.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!



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Re: Jennie Lakes Wilderness

Postby giantbrookie » Wed May 16, 2007 6:05 pm

fyton2v wrote:Hello! Noob here.

I was hoping someone here could clue me in on the expected conditions around Weaver and Jennie Lake in the Sequoia NP over Memorial Day weekend. I haven't hiked in the Sierra this early in the season and I'm not sure what to expect in the way of snow.

I'd like to make this an easy family overnight trek. I'd be toting the wife and kids. We will be OK for nighttime temps in the 30s, but we wouldn't be prepared for much snow. I called the local ranger station and they haven't been up that way this season.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I'm pretty sure the lakes will be thawed by Memorial Day weekend given that small snowpack and the elevation of those lakes. Some snow may remain on the steep, north-facing slopes above both lakes (especially above Jennie). Most of the route to the higher lake (Jennie) is west and south-facing so it should be snow free. Only the last mile, beyond Poop Out Pass, is north facing. I wouldn't be shocked if you encountered a few patches of snow on that stretch. There is an outside chance I'll be up at Weaver on Friday (if I decide against going to Cora Lakes). If I do, I'll post what I saw here.
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Postby fyton2v » Wed May 16, 2007 8:23 pm

What you described is pretty much what I expected with miserable snow pack this year, but it's better to be safe than sorry. If you're up that way I'd really appreciate a report. Thanks much for the info.

How's the fishing in Weaver lake? I'll be packing a fly rod.
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Postby TwoFortyJeff » Thu May 17, 2007 10:02 am

fyton2v wrote:What you described is pretty much what I expected with miserable snow pack this year, but it's better to be safe than sorry. If you're up that way I'd really appreciate a report. Thanks much for the info.

How's the fishing in Weaver lake? I'll be packing a fly rod.

I never tried with Weaver, but it is a popular destination for fly fishing.
I know that Jennie was LOADED early last summer. I was pumping water on a log and counted 4 large brown trout one afternoon.
A fly called "black ant" works best.
They no longer stock these lakes, but they hold some decent trout fishing.

I can only guess that the snow will be very low. I doubt any rangers will be up there before early to mid June. I went up there June 4th last year and I had the only tracks on the snow.

I suspect coming down from Poop Out Pass to Jennie may have some snow. The area heading up to JO pass may also have some patches. It's easy to get turned around there. The biggest problem is going to be fallen trees, as those won't be cleared yet.

Last year the snow level was 9000ft in early June, but now it's anybodies guess with the low snow.
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Postby TehipiteTom » Thu May 17, 2007 12:38 pm

For whatever it's worth, the snow measurement on the north slopes of Mount Mitchell (at about 9,900') is 2.1 inches SWEQ (which translates to maybe a foot or two of snow) and it's melting fast.

Here's the snow course page for the Kings watershed: http://cdec.water.ca.gov/snow/current/snow/pillowplots/Kings.html
Here's the location on a topo: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=36.73638&lon=-118.71149&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG
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Postby windknot » Thu May 17, 2007 2:42 pm

TehipiteTom, thanks for the links. Does that mean that both lakes are probably thawed by now?

fyton2v, I'll be heading up to Weaver and possibly Jennie tomorrow and I'll definitely be bringing the fly rods so I'll be sure to report back on what I find here. Giantbrookie has a few reports from Weaver on his awesome website in the fishing updates section, and from that it looks like brookies to 12" or so.

TwoFortyJeff, thanks for the status of Jennie. Now I'm undecided whether to sacrifice a bit of snooze time in order to check out both lakes tomorrow. It's a good dilemma to have. :cool:
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Postby windknot » Fri May 18, 2007 6:57 pm

Fyton2v, I hit Weaver today from early morning to early afternoon and saw a lot of action on mosquitoes and caddis in the 16-18 range with brookies to 11". Most of them were 8-10" though. Pretty fun stalking cruising fish in the shallows and watching them rise up to take your fly. I'd recommend that you go sooner rather than later as there were four other vehicles in the trailhead when we got back and this is only a Friday in the middle of May, I'm sure it'll get crowded as the weather gets warmer and the kids get out of school.
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Postby fyton2v » Sat May 19, 2007 8:47 am

windknot wrote:Fyton2v, I hit Weaver today from early morning to early afternoon and saw a lot of action on mosquitoes and caddis in the 16-18 range with brookies to 11". Most of them were 8-10" though. Pretty fun stalking cruising fish in the shallows and watching them rise up to take your fly. I'd recommend that you go sooner rather than later as there were four other vehicles in the trailhead when we got back and this is only a Friday in the middle of May, I'm sure it'll get crowded as the weather gets warmer and the kids get out of school.


Thanks for the update. Hopefully, it won't be a zoo next weekend.
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Postby fyton2v » Sat May 19, 2007 9:49 am

Windknot,

How much time does it take to drive to the trail head from either Fresno or Visalia?
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Postby giantbrookie » Sat May 19, 2007 12:24 pm

I don't know about Visalia, but, depending on traffic and where in the Fresno area one leaves from it is about 1hr30m to 1hr45m to the trailhead.
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Postby windknot » Sat May 19, 2007 1:26 pm

Yeah we made it in an hour and fifteen minutes but that's coming out of Sanger which is about twenty minutes closer to the park entrance than Fresno. I don't know if it's any faster but from Visalia I think you can take 198 all the way up to Sequoia.
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Finally went.

Postby fyton2v » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:05 pm

So the initial trip was postponed due to bout with strep throat. Me and my older daughter both came down with it a few days before we were supposed to go. We ended up leaving my wife and 3YO at home and did the hike to Jennie Lake the weekend before last.

It's a nice hike. We left from the Fox Meadow trail head making it about 5.5 miles one-way. Great scenery. Plenty of marmots. Mosquitoes weren't bad. However, there isn't much water up there. I don't think we crossed a single stream for about 2 miles preceding Jennie Lake... and there was barely water in the streams that did exist.

For the fishing buffs: The fishing at Jennie is very good right now. Landed several 8-10 rainbow/brook trout and 1 14" or 15" rainbow (I didn't measure) on a black woolly bugger. Royal patterns seemed to work pretty well too. Plenty of large fish patrolling the shallows. It's worth the walk.

Thanks again for those that provided advice.
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