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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Cross Country » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:29 pm

I spent 500+ day looking for good fishing with good scenery. My favorite 4 day trip was Sphinx Lakes. It's 2 days in, 1 day of very good fishing and the views are excellent. The cross country is easy because you just follow the creek to the lakes (lots of lakes can easily be seen in 1 day. If you go BE SURE to fish the highest large lake.



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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Cross Country » Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:33 pm

Me at Sphinx
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby snevill » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:24 am

I believe campfires were allowed at 1000 Island up until about 2010-ish and some websites still identify it as allowing campfires depending on the source, simply because they aren't updating the information.
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby maverick » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:53 pm

I in no way want to play "wilderness cop" and tear down every fire ring I see, even if illegal. I can absolutely understand why someone would want to have a campfire as part of their wilderness experience


If it is illegal, I will, because if I look the other way, someone knowingly or unknowingly will use it again, this doesn't make one a wilderness cop, but a good steward of the wilderness, to many people in society already look the other way or expect someone else to stand up. :\
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Cross Country » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:49 pm

I forgot to mention that Sphinx is out of roads end Kings Canyon. I also forgot to mention that it's 2 days in straight up and because of that it's only 1 day out and not a really long day either.
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Graydog » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:42 pm

Thank you for all the helpful posts.

I do want to clear up the point that Balance maybe misunderstood. I was asking for trip suggestions and if a campfire is allowed it would be a plus(meaning nice but not a deal breaker), maybe I should have continued (but thought it was obvious) with but if not then that's OK too. The trips listed were listed because they matched some of my criteria and not because I thought you could have fires there. I do not build fires where not allowed, even if others have illegally done so. Just wanted to clear that up.
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby balance » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:28 am

Greetings Graydog

Even on a forum as civil and friendly as HST, sometimes our intentions don't make it through the process of typing our thoughts. I once got questioned for suggesting that people should backpack naked, although it seemed like a silly statement that was obviously facetious. I found out that humorous facial expressions and voice inflection don't come through typing on the internet very well.

I am looking for a loop or out/back trip that will allow us to do some fishing. I know some people here are not fans but if I can have a small campfire is a plus.

A few of the routes I have looked at are Graveyard Lakes on west side, and on east side the King Creek area and also 1000 Island lake (but too late for that with permits), also Humphreys Basin is a consideration.


Thank you for taking the time to clarify your plans. On review, I think you can see where the inference comes from that you want to have a campfire, and that you're considering going to areas where campfires are not allowed. I'm glad that wasn't your intention.

I personally feel that night time in the Sierra Nevada is a special experience. The sounds of a stream or coyote or owl, the feel of the breeze, the fresh air, and of course the stars in their glory. A smoky fire ruins that. Then the next people traveling through are left with soot and charred wood and rocks scarred with carbon for hundreds of years. Not everyone sees it that way, so we have places were fires are approved, and places they're not.

Many times in the high-country people build fires disregarding the rules, disrespecting Mother Nature, and denying the rights of future hikers to enjoy the fresh, untainted beauty of the mountains. Thank you for respecting nature and your fellow hikers. I hope that you have a great trip, make friends here, and maybe we'll share your Sierra Nevada adventure with a trip report.

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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Graydog » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:29 pm

Thanks for the response. I can see why there was confusion which is why I wanted to clear up my end. Maybe we will see you on the trails.
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Graydog » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:31 am

So we changed our date by a day and were able to get a permit to go up Shadow Creek out of Agnew Meadows. Plan for now is to go to Ediza for 1 night, then to to Garnet or more likely 1000 Island Lake for one night and then probably head down River trail or High trail and camp so that we can head out early am for the drive home.

My main question is on finding a spot for the 3rd night, are there any regulations about how far you have to camp from the trail head? Do you prefer taking River or High trail?.

Also any opinions on the route in general are appreciated.

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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby maverick » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:23 pm

My main question is on finding a spot for the 3rd night, are there any regulations about how far you have to camp from the trail head? Do you prefer taking River or High trail?


- River Trail at Olaine Lake or near the Middle Fork have are some sites available.
- High Trail is a little more problematic, water is the issue, I have camped at a site near the creek flowing just south of San Joaquin Mtn that crosses the trail.

Both of these site are legal, a 1/4 mile from the boundary line and developed areas, just follow the FS regulations about the distance from rivers, lakes, trails when setting up you campsite.
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Re: 4 day Trip advice

Postby Graydog » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:04 pm

Thanks Maverick.
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