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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby maverick » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:51 pm

I have used front country bear boxes at the trailhead for food/supplies, marked and dated, but would never use a backcountry one. Be forewarned, have heard of peoples food/supplies disappearing, several times (never happened to me), these occured at the more popular trailheads.
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Re: In bear box?

Postby chulavista » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:14 pm

Sierra Miguel wrote:Is there still a post office in Grant Grove (559-335-2499) with better access?

oleander wrote:I could at least leave my food in the bear box, right?


Against regs. Also against regs, you could rent a bear can or two and cache them in the woods near the Wolverton TH.


I think the OP needs to give us more details to provide better suggestions. Is there a car involved or not? What else do you have other than food that needs to be stored?

Storing food in the trailhead boxes is not only within the rules, but is strongly encouraged to avoid bears breaking into cars. The Roads End rangers enforce this more than the Lodgepole rangers. There is a relatively low chance of someone removing your food if you are gone a week.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby oleander » Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:19 pm

Here's what I'm up to:

I'm doing two back-to-back trips out of the Wolverton/Crescent Meadow area. The first trip, to Tablelands, is with friends. It's their car. During that time, I would store the food for my *second* trip in a bear locker at one of the trailheads - assuming this is legal, which I'm now unclear on. If it's not legal, then I guess I need to mail that food to myself at Lodgepole post office.

In addition, I always have some "car clothes," maybe sandals, towel, soap, my cell phone...Items that are not taken backpacking, and are not food. Those non-food items I can leave in their car, during the first trip.

When they exit Tablelands, they may be driving away with our only car. I have a reservation to stay at Lodgepole Campground on my layover night.

The question is where the heck to store my "car clothes," cell phone, etc. during my second trip. (The second trip is the HST meet-up!) It seems to me that these are my choices:

1. Find an employee - ranger, campground host, store, lodge, wherever - who's willing to store them. Anywhere in the Lodgepole/WolvertonCrescent Meadow/Waksuchi environs would probably work. The shuttle bus will get me around.
2. Store them (non-food items) illegally in a trailhead bear locker. (I wouldn't do this).
3. Send most of them home with my friends, the day they leave.
4. Keep them for another night so that I can use them for my shower, etc., then mail them home the next day, before I hit the trail.
5. Lug them all the way to Kaweah Basin and back.
6. In the unlikely event that I hike to Kaweah Basin with the same HST person on the exact same entry and exit trailheads and dates, I could perhaps ask that person to store my stuff in their car. Not fond of this option, as it ties someone down to me and my schedule.

I don't want y'all to think too hard on this. Mostly I just wanted some ideas for #1 above, as that would be my preference - finding someone locally to store my stuff. Should I try the lodge?

7. Option 7 is that I'll just drive my own car to the trailhead, so it'll be waiting for me at my exit. That option is looking more and more likely as I consider logistics not limited to just storing my car items.

I also do want to understand whether I can really store my food in the trailhead bear locker or not. I guess I will call the park and see what they say.

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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby RoguePhotonic » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:25 am

I agree that there is no problem with storing all your stuff in the typical trail head bear boxes.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby maverick » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:21 am

Okay Lisa,

I called a friend at SEKI NP, it is legal to store your food/supplies, at/in the trailhead bear boxes. :nod:
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby oleander » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:23 pm

maverick wrote:I called a friend at SEKI NP, it is legal to store your food/supplies, at/in the trailhead bear boxes. :nod:


Food, yes, toothpaste, yes. But "supplies" - what does that mean? That I could put clothes in there, too? (Assuming I would even want to.)

It would seem to me that putting clothing in there (in addition to risking it being stolen) would stuff the bear lockers too full to fit everyone's food in high season.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:45 am

Not sure why you would need to put clothing in there but I wouldn't worry about it. Lockers are first come first serve.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby ERIC » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:21 am

franklin411 wrote:I think SEKI is too close to Fresno to get decent Rangers.


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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby Big Ed » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:58 pm

franklin411 wrote:I think SEKI is too close to Fresno to get decent Rangers


Workers come from all over, not just the local area. And we have some very good people in Fresno, don't believe all the stereotypes.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby Big Ed » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:06 pm

maverick wrote:have heard of peoples food/supplies disappearing, several times (never happened to me), these occured at the more popular trailheads.


Anyone can drive to a trailhead, this includes people that don't know what a trailhead or bear locker is. I've seen people think they're trash cans, and are befuddled by my explanation of what they are. This doesn't even include people that don't care and will take anything that isn't bolted down. For this reason I don't leave resupplies in them.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby RoguePhotonic » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:11 pm

If you wanted safe storage and the post office is open you could probably just talk them into holding it for you. I doubt they would charge you postage. The people there are very friendly. Since they were closed and I was looking for a way to send some stuff home the guy at the post office said he would mail it for me in Three Rivers. I handed over 500 dollars worth of gear and 20 dollars for postage and when I came back 2 weeks later not only had he mailed it but he had change for me from the 20.
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Re: Lodgepole (Sequoia NP) question

Postby franklin411 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:15 pm

Big Ed wrote:
franklin411 wrote:I think SEKI is too close to Fresno to get decent Rangers


Workers come from all over, not just the local area. And we have some very good people in Fresno, don't believe all the stereotypes.


I mean they live in Fresno--a pretty big town. I get the sense that they drive up from their tract houses and white picket fences and big screen TVs and 2.5 kids, put in their duty time with one eye on the clock/calendar, and get back to their happy suburban lives as soon as humanly possible. They're not bad people, and they do want to help. But this is just a job to them. Nothing more.

The sense I got from the Rangers in Rocky Mountain NP over several trips was that they lived and breathed the mountains, which made them better able to help visitors (it's very difficult for anyone to do a really good job unless they love what they do).

Denver is a big town too, but Colorado really has a mountain culture, and California does not.
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