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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby giantbrookie » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:26 pm

For a multifaceted basin that is about equal hiking time from E or W there is Bear Basin. It's rather centrally located and has all the bells and whistles including many fishing and peak bagging options.
Since my fishing (etc.) website is still down, you can be distracted by geology stuff at: http://www.fresnostate.edu/csm/ees/facu ... ayshi.html



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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby oldranger » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:02 pm

While I appreciate the desire for a bunch of great people wanting to get together in the backcountry I have always had a problem with large groups. I think choosing a remote location works great as not many people regardless of what they intend will actually make it. As an individual, encountering a large group in Bear Basin would just seem wrong to me and I would hate to do so at the end of a long day with little ability to move on. That is why I keep my groups small and in locations where others would expect to find company. I remember once when Tehipte Tom and I spent the night at a small lake with over 20 boy scouts camped near us (we had already spent one night when the scouts showed up) even if they hadn't been young and boisterous the shear number was disturbing.

I would think a front country location would be much more appropriate for a large HST gathering. Just my pov.

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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby LMBSGV » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:26 pm

I would think a front country location would be much more appropriate for a large HST gathering. Just my pov

Also my pov.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby rlown » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:35 pm

missing the point a bit on an HST gathering. Pick a pass through spot that no one has to be at for the whole time. You might meet people; you might not depending on itineraries. Just not one with a 2 day haul before you can fish!

20 scouts would be a lot to handle unless you have an spare rod/reel to let some of them try fishing!!!! under 16 requires no license. Teaching that is always fun.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby giantbrookie » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:40 pm

oldranger wrote: As an individual, encountering a large group in Bear Basin would just seem wrong to me and I would hate to do so at the end of a long day with little ability to move on.

Yes, this is a good point. Few of us would be very happy with a big group dropping in on us at some remote place, or staggering to a remote destination and finding a tent city there. I too was in the latter situation once, although it was not as deep into the backcountry as Bear Basin. I still remember cresting out and being shocked by the sight of a veritable walk in campground.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby AlmostThere » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:48 pm

The only large group activities I do are in front country campgrounds. I was supposing there would be a small group.

A compromise between backpacking and camping would be something like Point Reyes sites at Wildcat - the group sites can accommodate up to 50 people and it's hike-in only. Of course, not in the Sierra...

Campsites in the Edison or Courtright area would afford us with day hiking opportunities and ample space to gather the rest of the time.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby dave54 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:14 pm

Too early to make a schedule yet. I have a tentative trip to North Cascades/Pasayten in the formative stages next summer. Other than that nothing is tickling my wanderlust and too many life changes in the next year to really make any firm commitments.

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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby SSSdave » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:21 pm

maverick wrote:If you want a quick access place (easily reached in one day), with relative solitude, then Lake 11026 in Pioneer Basin fits the bill. It has all the requirements from fishing,
climbing, and photography.


Yeah thought about that too Maverick. Quite excellent choice except at 11 miles from Mosquito Flat with a total up down vertical of 4900 feet, it is not easy for one day out and back for those carrying even average loads.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby SSSdave » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:33 pm

giantbrookie wrote:For a multifaceted basin that is about equal hiking time from E or W there is Bear Basin. It's rather centrally located and has all the bells and whistles including many fishing and peak bagging options.


All the Bear Creek areas are at the top of my favorites. Well from the east like Pine Creek or North Lake, the East Fork of Bear Creek basin is a tough 2 days. From Bear Diversion Dam it is 15 miles. Again 2 strong days. Even Marie Lake in the South Fork basin is 13 miles from either there or Florence. Not the kind of effort one is going to plan for a one day out and back that is more a social gathering. Anything more than 8 miles is probably better for a longer trip with smaller groups.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby SSSdave » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:45 pm

oldranger wrote:While I appreciate the desire for a bunch of great people wanting to get together in the backcountry I have always had a problem with large groups. I think choosing a remote location works great as not many people regardless of what they intend will actually make it. ...I would think a front country location would be much more appropriate for a large HST gathering. Just my pov.
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Well that could be the situation depending on what becomes large. Yeah if that means a couple or three dozen haha. The permit quota system is somewhat self limiting. My vague expectation on the thread was that I would be surprised if even a dozen of us actually would meet up at the same time in the backcountry although more would likely say they would until the last few days before much like this summer's event. And a dozen people in most of these vast places is invisible unless one plunks down at heavily used trail or lake side camp spots.
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby The hermit » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:53 pm

Its interesting that about 8miles is my max on day one but after 4or5days I can do 16(I spend several days at elevation to acclimate). Pizza salad and beer have a strong pull!
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Re: 2015 Group Trip ?

Postby SSSdave » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:55 pm

LMBSGV wrote:
I would think a front country location would be much more appropriate for a large HST gathering. Just my pov

Also my pov.


Sure car camping could work too and just 3 days would fit. The issue is sure to be finding a car camping location that would be interesting enough for people to actually bother to make all the effort for?
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