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TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby aweist » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:01 pm

Really enjoyed reading this and would love to do the whole loop. The longest I'll be able to take off work is about 4-5 days, though - any suggestions on where to trim from this loop in order to fit it in that time frame (starting from the East side)? Looking to do about 35-45 miles total and would love to see Cloud Canyon & Bighorn Plateau. Would also love a solid mix of below and above-tree line scenery. Any suggestions would be much appreciated!



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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:31 pm

Hi Aweist,

Welcome to HST! Please the following: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4205
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby aweist » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:27 pm

Hi Maverick,

Sorry about that, I neglected to provide more info under the assumption that I was more or less the same hiker type as OP. Here's some further info:

-Level 3 (open to 4)
-Comfortable with all types of terrain
-Lakes/Big Mountain Scenery/Photography
-4-4.5 days, 4 nights

I'm interested in maximizing the scenery available along this route, but trimming from the length in order to hike around a 35-45 mile loop. I'd prefer something in the SEKI area with an eastern start. Most backpacking I've done has been in the Yosemite area as well as the trip up Mt. Whitney, but not much in between the two. As mentioned before, it'd be great to mix up some below and above-treeline hiking/camping.

Any other suggestions in this area would be much appreciated. Apologies if I should've started my own thread for this request! Thanks in advance.

-Adam
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:22 pm

Hi Adam,

Adam wrote:
Looking to do about 35-45 miles total and would love to see Cloud Canyon & Bighorn
Plateau.


Visiting Cloud Canyon alone would take you more mileage than what you indicated
that you are willing to do.
Your mileage simply doesn't allow you to visit the places you indicated as a loop, and
from the east.

Visiting Bighorn coming in from Shepherd and exiting via Whitney would hit your
mileage requirements, but getting permits to exit or entering via Whitney will
be problematic and exiting out via the southern passes, south of Whitney, would
put you over the mileages you have indicated.
Shepherd or Whitney would be a brutal start for your short trip of 4 nights and
you would have the issue of getting back to the car.

The Rae Lake Loop out of Onion Valley, clockwise is 41.4 miles long, a beautiful
trip, but with it being a holiday weekend, expect company. If you do decide
on this trip, stay in Middle Paradise Valley, and at Dragon Lake for some solitude
if the crowds are big.

The North Lake to South Lake via Lamarck Col is a classic hike thru some of the
best areas in the Sierra. This is great trip, but would add on at least one more day,
two would be even better, if you can.

The Minarets out of Mammoth would give you sub-lime scenery, though a lot of
people if you stay at the more popular spots. 1000 Is Lake, Garnet, and Ediza Lake
are all popular, add in some of the lakes in the southern end like Ashley, which
is not crowded, quite stunning, and work your way up towards the 1000 Is Lake
area via the JMT. Minaret Lake to Lake Ediza is a classic route that is beautiful.

There are numerous TR's that you can use the "search feature" to check out these
specific areas, and then get back to us with any question or areas of interest.

Expect mosquitoes to be at peak in some of these areas, be prepared.

Also know your limitation in regards to elevation, some of these trips, especially
from the east get to high elevation very fast, and altitude sickness can be an issue.
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby aweist » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:19 am

Thanks so much for all the great suggestions. That makes sense about Cloud Canyon, I wasn't sure if there was a trail that cut through the center of that loop that would trim down the mileage or not.

I think the trip through the Minarets to 1000 Island Lake is the closest to what I'm looking for, but I'm having trouble finding the best way to do a 4 day loop on-trail, assuming anywhere from 8-14 miles/day. Ordinarily I'd be fine with XC hiking, but this trip I'd prefer not to. Know of any existing TRs that would be a good resource? I would ideally like to make it down to see Minaret Lake, but can't tell if there's a trail to get down there. I suppose the easiest way to plan would be to look at a trail map, but I'm also having a hard time tracking one down that shows all maintained trails.

The other area I think would be awesome to explore is Kearsarge Pass/Bullfrog Lake. Any recommendations for the best way to incorporate this area into a 4 day trip (preferably on-trail)?
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:30 pm

Best area map is Tom Harrison's "Mammoth High Country" trail map.
When are planning to do this trip?
To access the trail head you will have to use the mandatory shuttle from
Mammoth or drive in the gate and down to Agnew Meadow before 7am.
Take the River Trail up to 1000 Is Lake, spend 2 nights there, and either
go visit Catherine Lake, or go visit Davis and/or Marie Lakes as a day hike.
Then get on the JMT, go to Eidza Lake, and spend your last night there.
Use the trail to head back to the JMT from Ediza, and then take the
Shadow Lake Trail down to Agnew Meadows to catch the shuttle or your
car.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8905&p=65562&hilit=+ediza+1000+lake#p65534
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11038&p=83327&hilit=ediza+to+1000+is+lake+TR#p83327
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby aweist » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:44 pm

Very helpful, thanks. We'll likely plan on doing that. The trip is coming up very soon; we're planning on July 2-6th. Do you have any thoughts regarding Kearsarge Pass or another loop in that area starting from Onion Valley? I realize that's the beginning of the original loop I asked about but was wondering if any trails went north of there and returned to Onion Valley. Thanks for putting up with all my elementary Sierra questions!
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:54 pm

No 4 day/3 night loops out of Onion Valley, the only one would be Dragon Pass>Dragon
Lake/Rae Lakes>Glen Pass>Kearsarge Lakes>Out, but Dragon Pass is a solid class
2 cross-country pass, which you indicated that you did not want to do one this trip.
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby aweist » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:06 pm

The more I look at the map, the more I think that Kearsarge -> Rae Lakes Loop would be an awesome trip and I'd be willing to do XC travel as long as it doesn't comprise a large majority of the trip. Also, I've managed to extend the trip to 5 days/4 nights, so do you think this is doable?

After a bit more research, I've also been seriously considering Twin Lakes -> Deadman Canyon -> Tablelands loop out of Lodgepole, which would involve a bit of XC. Thoughts on which one of these makes the most sense? I went ahead and reserved a permit for the latter trip in anticipation of possibly doing it.

Thanks again!
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby schmalz » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:12 pm

I don't think Dragon Pass with a full pack would be a good introduction to Sierra offtrail travel. Since you have expressed some hesistation about it, you might find yourself in over your head on that pass.

My two cents.
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:53 pm

Schmalz wrote:
I don't think Dragon Pass with a full pack would be a good introduction to Sierra off
trail travel. Since you have expressed some hesistation about it, you might find
yourself in over your head on that pass.
My two cents.


OP wrote:
Sorry about that, I neglected to provide more info under the assumption that I was more
or less the same hiker type as OP. Here's some further info:

-Level 3 (open to 4)
-Comfortable with all types of terrain
-Lakes/Big Mountain Scenery/Photography
-4-4.5 days, 4 nights


Your are correct Schmalz that Dragon is definitely not a pass to use as a intro, but
earlier the OP did write the he had Level 3 experience and open to Level 4, and
comfortable on all terrain. He also indicated that on this trip he did not want
to do any cross-country.

OP wrote:
Ordinarily I'd be fine with XC hiking, but this trip I'd prefer not to.
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Re: TR: Circle of Solitude (7/14-7/21 2012)

Postby maverick » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:11 pm


Adam wrote:

The more I look at the map, the more I think that Kearsarge -> Rae Lakes Loop
would be an awesome trip and I'd be willing to do XC travel as long as it doesn't
comprise a large majority of the trip. Also, I've managed to extend the trip to 5
days/4 nights, so do you think this is doable?

After a bit more research, I've also been seriously considering Twin Lakes -> Deadman
Canyon -> Tablelands loop out of Lodgepole, which would involve a bit of XC. Thoughts
on which one of these makes the most sense? I went ahead and reserved a permit for
the latter trip in anticipation of possibly doing it.

Thanks again!


Okay, so now this trip is morphing into a day longer trip, and you would like to
include cross-country?
Please clarify what you are pertaining to when saying the Rae Lake Loop, are you
interested in doing the 41.4 mile Rae Lakes Loop, because if yes, there is no cross-
country involved?

Yes, your second option is doable in your time frame (5 days), your cross-country
section involves using Pterodactyl Pass (Class 2): viewtopic.php?f=31&t=8450
The cross-country section to Moose Lake and then on to Pear Lake quite straight
forward.
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