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TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby richapple » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:34 pm

Anyone who has hiked out of the Big Meadow Trail Head into the Jennie Lakes Wilderness: True there is no bear box there? I assume the road is no big deal... Odd about the bear box. Means full planning to have zero bear-bait items to leave at the TH.

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Postby AlmostThere » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:48 pm

There is no bear box at the trailhead but there are bear boxes at all the campsites along the road. And they definitely need boxes at the trailhead.


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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby richapple » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:51 pm

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Campsites along the road are not too far from the trailhead? I know if I camped and a small bag with a sad little note about backpacking was in the box, I wouldn't mind!

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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby maverick » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:53 pm

I know there are bear boxes at the Big Meadow Campground sites, and none
at Jennie or Weaver Lakes, and no dedicated boxes for the trailhead
which makes not make sense. Call (559) 338-2251 and please let us know if things
have changed.
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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby richapple » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:00 pm

Maverick,

I did call Hume Ranger Station (though a different number than the one you gave) and she looked at a map and said "no bear boxes" (ranger at Grant Grove Village Visitor Center on the phone said she thought they were still "no bear boxes" out there), but then if we find some there I'll update this thread after the trip. Just over the border into King's Cyn, a couple of the backcountry lakes apparently have bear boxes. We don't need 'em in the backcountry as we've become full-time bear box b-packers! (Bearikades - dig 'em)

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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby maverick » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:13 pm

Yes, Seville, Lost and Ranger Lakes have them. If your going that far, make sure to
visit Lost Lake, beautiful at sunrise!
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Postby richapple » Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:45 pm

Yes, Lost Lake is high on the list! Campable? Thx
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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby maverick » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:12 pm

Yes, the bear box is located on the eastern end of the lake, and there is room for
quite a few tents. Usually any location with bear boxes has a decent amount of
campsites in the immediate vicinity as is the case at Seville and Ranger Lake. Sheep
Camp Lakes are also well worth the visit too, especially the upper one, an easy
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Postby evilgenius32 » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:30 pm

Are you planning on starting at Big Meadows TH or the shortcut at Fox Meadows? It cuts off a few miles.
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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby richapple » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:00 pm

Bear Box even at Lost Lake? Did not know that, but then not looking for them... Our favorites are the lakes without trails, let alone bear boxes! (later trips)

Sheep Lake must be just northwest of Lost Lake? Cool. It's on the list! Cross Country is A-Okay with us.

And the Fox Meadow TH... It must be the first major right turn after the Big Meadow TH (unpaved roads in there I'm figuring - have never been - but okay for passenger cars) and then you just do a short cross country or use trail to the Jennie Lakes/Weaver trail? Turn for Fox Meadow TH looks to be about 1.5 miles past Big Meadow TH, then the right turn and a half mile to a three-way fork where one takes the center route, then another mile? We'd read about Fox Meadow, so this is now just more good advice! (Trailhead web page says road still closed and open to foot traffic only to Rowell Meadows TH, but I'll bet it is open to the Fox Meadow turn and probably even to Rowell. The internet is usually behind for the Sierras everywhere but High Sierra Topix!)

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Postby evilgenius32 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:26 pm

Yes, first major turn after you cross the creek. Perfectly fine for passenger cars and there is an actual trail that meets up with the Big Meadows trail. And the road is open all the way to Marvin Pass, so all turn offs through are open.
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Re: TH at Jennie Lakes Wilderness? Big Meadow...

Postby richapple » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:05 pm

Thanks for the update, evilgenius32. We were on the trail by then, though. We did go ahead and use the Big Meadow TH because we (and we use this a lot) figured we needed the exercise. But yes, the Fox Meadow road was said to be very okay for small cars (by some we met out on the trails - who said the few potential "wash out" places were not at all bad). And yes, from Fox Meadow TH to our trail where we were already in progress was not x-country at all. Big old trail... I'm guessing the additional mileage to use Big Meadow was about 1.25 each way.

As for the bear boxes at any of the THs in the area... There are none. A trail type crew we ran into at Weaver Lk did say something about the lack of bear boxes at THs in the Sequoia National Forest having something to do with them wanting to keep it wild. ?? Big Meadow TH has a trash bin, recycle bins, a huge pit toilet? Wild? But the young crew was cleaning up from the lesser humans who had been at Weaver, so... whatever they say.

Having an extra old Garcia bear cache, we easily made use of it and stashed any and all possible bear attractants in a fine hiding spot. We also tried for the first time the "dryer anti cling cloths" method to discourage rodents from nibbling (or nesting in) the car, and the box of the leftovers absolutely had to be kept in a bag and hidden with the Garcia. (With, not in!) Way way stinky those things, but I'm happy to report that the leftovers, as well as the four wrapped around rocks and sitting on top of the tires along with the four the tires were on top of, were all still there and not messed with at all. (Effective? Hard to prove a negative, but there were no apparent rodent effects visited upon the car. True test might be to use them at the TH at Edison Lk - Mouse Central.)

Did get to Weaver, Seville, one of the Sheep Camp Lks, Lost, Ranger, Beville, two lakes before Crescent and Crescent... Twin Lakes, Jennie... Lots-o-beauty! Hopefully a TR in not too long.
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