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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:13 pm

We're off trail experienced, I can read maps and have an Garmin Oregon 600 gps for lite duty. We have 2 bear vaults, as where I hiked and spent time guiding in hell's canyon we have black bears and grizzlys and would often go on 14-20 day long rafting trips. I believe we have all the required equipment-- I have a lighthart solong 6 for our tent, z packs 20 degree bags, etc. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. We spent a lot of time off trail on Mt hood in last summer; just getting "lost" and exploring. The downside up there is almost every time we were out, we got a lot of rain.

We're not necessarily looking for big fish, just ample fishing areas. I'll be fly fishing, he'll be throwing spinners.

I'll look into all of your suggestions. I really appreciate the help. In Portland I had an experienced older backpacker to get me started when I was a lot younger (25 now) so starting over in this rattlesnake country is a new experience.

My German shepherd did go through rattlesnake training about a year ago, also, as I get quite a few rattlesnakes on my property and behind my house all summer and fall.



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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Tom_H » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:50 pm

Actually, Russ is right. It isn't just the snakes being there. It may be nigh impossible for the dog(s) to do the bouldering, scrambling, etc. that you do. WD is also right about the water level.

I think (but may be wrong) that at the appropriate flow, the river is runnable from the CA 4 bridge to the reservoir. Here's what I'd suggest, Google search for river runner groups doing the Moke(ulumne). Find a group that already knows the river and run it with them as a way to scout the river for potential backpacking later. I don't know if you can run decked C2s with camping gear stowed below deck on this water or not; I doubt it. If possible, a canoe camping trip might be a thought. I used to guide whitewater trips in C2 opens (high Class III bordering on IV) with floatation and C2 open camping trips on up to low Class III water. My back always hurt in a kayak and I don't know how well modern camping gear is stowable in modern kayaks.

Since WD mentioned Emigrant, specifically Kennedy Creek, you could easily do a loop going up Summit Creek to Emigrant Meadow, then back down Kennedy Creek. There are lakes and streams with fishing. I don't have any secret fishing places to offer, but on Summit Creek I know of a 30' x 8' swimming hole with cliff side walls and a 12 foot waterfall dropping straight into the pool, also a pool in granite that gets hot in the sun and basically provides a solar spa, and a secret secluded valley with a meandering stream through it that is one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen. I'm not going to post openly, but may share with those who PM me. Also in Emigrant, you can make all kinds of loops from Crabtree trailhead. In nearby Hoover, you could also go up the main fork of the West Walker River, climb to some lakes to the west, then hike cross country back down the West Fork of the West Walker. There are a number of lakes tangential to the loop. You also could go up the West Walker, climb to Dorothy Lake, go cross country to Tower Lake, then back down to the West Walker and out.

If you want details on any of these things, just ask; I have a bunch of maps already drawn on CalTopo.com.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby rlown » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:05 pm

Tom,

Where are you thinking? mark up the map with paint if you desire. Click on the jpeg and edit with paint or other sw..

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click on it to make full size for manipulation

Russ

PS: I'm totally leaning to Emigrant anywhere other than this unless you want a massive adventure.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby oldranger » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:59 pm

No fish in tower lake.

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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Tom_H » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:57 pm

Someone who read this thread sent me a PM with a request for info. This afternoon the site was offline for a bit. When it came back online, several recent PMs were missing from both my inbox as well as my sent msg. box. To the person who made the info. request, your PM was lost and I do not remember from whom the request came. If you resend the PM, I will reply.

Post Script, it looks like a couple of days worth of posts in this thread and maybe others disappeared. I don't see any announcement, but I am wondering if the site crashed and they had to reload from backup storage.

PPS I now see Eric's announcement that the host company deleted the entire site and it had to be restored from backup that was a day old. In actuality, it is 2 or more days.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:13 pm

Thank you all for the replies and suggestions.

At this point, I'm seriously researching fishing the upper kern. Starting at horseshoe meadows trailhead and working over to the river, fishing up and down that area for a couple days, and making our way back. It's dog friendly, from the trip reports appears to have ample fish, and lots of places to explore while having a central camp by the river.

Something along the lines of:
Day 1- 15 miles to Little Whitney Meadow
Day 2- 5 miles to Kern, camp near the water somewhere.
Day 3- Fish up and down the kern
Day 4- Day trip to high sierra trail junction, fishing along the way.
Day 5- Keep fishing.
Day 6- Pack up and leave as the sun comes up, 20 miles out

I know it's not an exciting off trail adventure. But it's only 4 hours from the house, and I feel we'll have more time to fish and enjoy the area that way. If something sounds wrong with that plan definitely let me know.

Thanks again,
Austin
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Mike M. » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:58 pm

Sounds like a great plan. Just be aware that once down to the Kern, you are at the southern edge of the national park, where dogs are not allowed in the backcountry. The park boundary is near the Kern Canyon ranger station -- no dogs allowed north of there, even for day hikes.

You probably knew this already.

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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Tom_H » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:03 pm

A pal of mine fishes that area a good bit. You know about the "bathtub" at Kern Hot Spring, right?
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:24 pm

Mike: I have looked up extensively the park boundaries for where I'll be headed, and will mark on the map/gps my northernmost limit before we go. I'm still trying to find what maps I want to order//golden trout wilderness and inyo national forest I think.

Tom: Didn't know about the bathtub/hot spring, but will look it up, thanks.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:59 pm

Anyone have maps drawn up for this area?
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Mike M. » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 pm

Kern Hot Springs is about 12 miles north of the Kern Canyon ranger station and about 10 miles south of Junction Meadow. There's a concrete tub there, near the east bank of the river, with natural hot spring water flowing in at the head of the tub (controlled by a wooden plug). Blissful if you've been on the trial for many days and happen to be there when it's not crowded.

If you're looking for good maps, try Tom Harrison's "Mt Whitney High Country Trail Map" and "Golden Trout Wilderness Trail Map." Unless you're planning to head off cross country, these maps should be more than sufficient -- they show contour lines at 80 foot intervals, like the old 15-minute topo maps I am used to using.

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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:03 pm

Thanks Tom, will grab those maps ASAP.
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