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Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:53 am

Planning a trip for June; me, my friend, and my dog. I'm searching and reading as much as I can, but the posts I've found a lot of time don't mention having a dog, so that makes it difficult. I've found Mineral King Loop and the south lake to north lake loop. Any other recommendations? Do they allow dogs at either of those two trails? I'm not looking for anyone to give away any of their secret spots- I can read a map and will research, just put me on a trail with fish around and I'll put the time in.

What level of backpacking experience do you have?
Level 3- Numerous backpacking trips, some x-country travel
--I've done a number of backpacking trips in washington, oregon, and Canada, from weekend trips to 150 mile trips, but just moved down to California. He's backpacked all over Europe-as he's from Spain.

What terrain are you comfortable/uncomfortable with?
- Class 3 terrain/pass/x-country
- River crossings
- Snow travel/Glacier crossings

--We have lots of experience off trail and we're both in good shape. We just ran a marathon last month and participate/compete in mud run's very often.

What is your main interest?
We're looking for consistent fishing and solitude, that's about it.

How many days/nights is your trip, not including travel to trailhead? 5-6

How many miles did you want to do a day, any layovers?
It doesn't really matter honestly, we can go 5 or we can go 15. We'd prefer to hike in, set camp, and hopefully have day hikes all around to different fishing lakes.

Do you have a route logistics preference: loop, out and back, point to point (which
may require 2 vehicles or hitchhiking)?
Loop, or out and back are both fine. Point to point is non preferable.

Is there a particular area in the Sierra that your most interested in(Yosemite, SEKI
western sierra start or eastern start ect.)?
Don't really care-we're coming from LA so if it's closer cool, if not no worries.

Will you be hiking with a dog? Yes, this is a requirement. I don't leave her home.


Thanks
Austin



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Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby AlmostThere » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:43 am

I will suggest heading up from Courtright reservoir from the Maxson trailhead going up into the red Mountain basin and then crossing over easy cross-country to bench valley. The fishing in all the lakes yields nice fat rainbow trout and Brook trout.

*edited to correct what autocorrect broke *
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:51 am

Thanks!

Doing research over the night, I've found mineral king loop is in Sequoia national park-- so no dogs. South lake to North lake is dog friendly though, and at only 4 1/2 hours from my house, is quite close.

I'll look into your suggestion today, Almosthere.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Tom_H » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 am

If you don't mind being at intermediate elevation, you can find this solitude and fishing by bushwacking and bouldering all the way down the Mokulmne Canyon. There are several trip reports that can be found via search function. This is rugged terrain, mountainous, cliffs, headwalls, some poision oak and rattlesnakes, but only a few very hearty souls orienteer down this river. I have heard of people pulling as big as 28" trout from these waters occasionally. You put in where CA 4 crosses the river, work your way downstream to the famous Blue Hole, at which point trail begins, follows Salt Spring Reservoir to the dam and take out trailhead. It is possible you may see kayakers running this canyon, but doubtful you would see any other backpackers.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Austin E » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:45 am

Tom_H wrote: You put in where CA 4 crosses the river, work your way downstream to the famous Blue Hole, at which point trail begins, follows Salt Spring Reservoir to the dam and take out trailhead. It is possible you may see kayakers running this canyon, but doubtful you would see any other backpackers.


I am looking on google maps, and not seeing the 4 cross the river. I see the 48 cross it. Maybe I'm just missing it--I'll keep looking. This sounds like an excellent trip though. If we enjoyed it, I may have to come back with the kayaks, as that is another thing we love.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Vaca Russ » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:54 am

Tom_H wrote:If you don't mind being at intermediate elevation, you can find this solitude and fishing by bushwacking and bouldering all the way down the Mokulmne Canyon. There are several trip reports that can be found via search function. This is rugged terrain, mountainous, cliffs, headwalls, some poision oak and rattlesnakes, but only a few very hearty souls orienteer down this river. I have heard of people pulling as big as 28" trout from these waters occasionally. You put in where CA 4 crosses the river, work your way downstream to the famous Blue Hole, at which point trail begins, follows Salt Spring Reservoir to the dam and take out trailhead. It is possible you may see kayakers running this canyon, but doubtful you would see any other backpackers.


Bushwacking all of the way down the Moke?!?!?

As AlmostThere recently asked Hermit, "What has he ever done to you?"

:D :D :D

To be fair to Tom he did warn you about bushwacking, bouldering, rugged terrain, mountainous, cliffs, headwalls, poison oak and rattlesnakes.

Someday I would like to get the courage to do this hike! :nod: :nod:

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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby rlown » Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:03 am

lots of snakes between blue hole and Camp Irene. They were sitting on the trail, and sitting on tree stumps when i used to frequent the area. Multiple species. Lots of them as big as the fish Tom says are in there. I didn't see those fish.. generally 8"-12", but that was a long time ago. If you were taking dogs and they're not snake trained, it's not the place to go. There are places on that "trail" that are impassable to dogs w/o some really tricky assistance.

I've gone in from Salt Springs res up to Telephone Gulch (one of my favorite places).

I've also gone down from Carson pass into the canyon and back out and around back to Carson Pass.

Maybe a nice visit to Emigrant wilderness instead? The fishing is better the further in you go. Either from Gianelli Cabin or Crabtree. Check out CDFW's fishing guide on their fishing page.

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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Tom_H » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:25 pm

Vaca Russ wrote:As AlmostThere recently asked Hermit, "What has he ever done to you?"

:D :D :D

:D :D :D

Well, these guys say they're off trail experienced :dontknow . They want fishing and solitude, both of which they'd get, although they could see a :bear: or three. Whether people say they're newbies or experienced, I usually take that at face value, but again :dontknow . If they're up to playing Indiana Jones, :-k . OTOH, it's not the Chatooga and they shouldn't encounter any :rock: (banjo players).

Here's a map with start possibilities.

http://caltopo.com/map?id=0V76

Russ, I didn't see those 28 inchers, just heard talk, but I saw a guy pull one 22 incher after another from the last pool before the reservoir last March using live worms. My pal with artificial didn't get a nibble. Russ is right about the dogs, forgot about that part.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby rlown » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:06 pm

ok.. no dog. Up rafferty to evelyn. next day at townsley. then up to HB.. back out. All in Yose.

this isn't a secret. except to Markskor.


I expect you have all the necessary equipment, bear cans, etc.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby maverick » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:27 pm

Wow Russ, HB one of your secret location, though Puppet has been outed too, your
going to run out of secret locations besides you know which lake, which I ain't going
to mention. [-(
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby tim » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:02 pm

Austin E wrote:Doing research over the night, I've found mineral king loop is in Sequoia national park-- so no dogs. South lake to North lake is dog friendly though, and at only 4 1/2 hours from my house, is quite close.


South Lake to North Lake goes into Kings Canyon National Park. No dogs allowed there either. But the loops from North Lake over Piute Pass and heading west and north through Humphreys Basin into the John Muir Wilderness would be OK. Plenty of lakes there.
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Re: Week long fishing trip advice needed.

Postby Wandering Daisy » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:18 pm

I tried once to do the Mokulumne from Carson Pass early season and could not cross Summit City Creek. I do not think this trip is the best idea at peak runoff. Keep an eye on river flows. This year may be odd enough that peak runoff is long gone by June. I recall that there is a bit of rough rock on this route - not kind on dog paws.

Southern Yosemite out of Fernandez trailhead has fishing (I recall not large fish but abundant) and is dog friendly. If it remains a dry year, the road should be open mid to late June.

What about Emigrant Wilderness? We had pretty good fishing early season on Kennedy Creek (this is an in-and-out 3 day trip only). You can make a good week trip into Emigrant Lakes.
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