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HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby AlmostThere » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:37 pm

meetup.com - put in a zipcode, wham.

i belong to seven, and know a lot of hikers who are also in many groups. i have four single night, one two night, and two 5-6 night outings i am organizing - and plenty more to come.



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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby maverick » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:46 pm

HST= Wilderness Adventurer who knows no bounds, except for their own imagination.

Have a safer backcountry experience by using the HST ReConn Form 2.0, named after Larry Conn, a HST member: http://reconn.org
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby Jes » Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:25 pm

@Almost There, DavePolessel, Maverick, Thank you for mentioning the meet up site :) I will check it out and put it to use to gain more experience as you mentioned. Also Manzana Schoolhouse looks like a beautiful trail, will definitely look into it.
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby The hermit » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:05 pm

Rely on yourself and yourself alone. Solo is great as long as you're careful and know your limits.think of driving a sports car vs. a truck. slow and steady.
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby AlmostThere » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:02 am

The hermit wrote:Rely on yourself and yourself alone. Solo is great as long as you're careful and know your limits.think of driving a sports car vs. a truck. slow and steady.


You think someone who had an idea to do the entire HST in WINTER as a beginner with no clue about the risks he was taking and the gear he needed needs this advice?

What has he ever done to you?
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby sparky » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:02 am

lol AT be trippin'!

Jes: go buy the book freedom of the hills. You can do whatever you want in time. If you die it is your fault though, and with the knowledge and common sense displayed thus far it is going to be an uphill battle for you!

Seriously....you might die from about a million things you have no clue about, but with luck you will live long enough to gain the experience you will need to keep yourself alive.

You are obviously hungry for some time in the mountains though, I will give you that!

I always say, if you aren't learning anything new, you aren't paying attention.
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HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby AlmostThere » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:37 am

actually not trippin - SAR goes looking for people over their heads and without a clue all the time.

Saving your taxpayer dollars trying to divert newbies elsewhere should be a common goal - the park helicopter is not cheap to operate!

a lot of folks are assuming the low snow means summer gear works out there - boy, does that turn out to be a short trip!
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby rlown » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:40 pm

So Jes just wants to learn. I think he knows now that March isn't a good time to solo w/o experience. He just wants good input on proper equipment for a reasonable time of year. I've already PM'd him on various threads or searches to look at.

Let's try and support a new guy now that we considerably thrashed him on what is not ok.
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby Tom_H » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:06 pm

AlmostThere is absolutely right. Jes is a young person who's enthusiastic about our sport, but has no experience. He and I have exchanged over a dozen PMs and I am helping him decide what gear he wants to buy. Currently he has a pack, and a sleeping bag (which he says he now realizes is not adequate for backpacking) and that's it.

For someone to say rely on yourself and yourself alone is highly irresponsible. I will give that writer credit for also saying as long as you know your limits. The thing here is that the young man, while enthusiastic, doesn't have enough background knowledge to know his limits. AlmostThere is not trippin', and is absolutely right to call out irresponsible advice.

Russ, I am glad to see you are changing your point of view a little too. In another thread where some other inexperienced person asked about going in mid-winter, after I said one needs specialized training, you replied to that person saying he did not need specialized training. I also remember when someone asked about curriculum for a high school class. WD recommended the NOLS textbooks. You quite angrily jumped all over her saying she was wrong and that the teacher should just take the kids and go have fun. Your point of view was not only incorrect, you were really rude to WD.

Eight people dead in 18 months is enough. Those of us with experience have a responsibility to give sound advice. This macho rugged individualism attitude is fine if you know what you are doing, but when a neophyte comes along and one of us tells him to just get out there and do it, that person is simply acting like a teenage smart-aleck. Grown-ups have a responsibility to act like grown-ups.
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby sparky » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:07 pm

Oh brave new world with such creatures in it!
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby The hermit » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:29 pm

Sorry if I mis represented my style of solo hiking or advice.I say start slow and gain experience, on trail.
Be prepared. Rely on your own preparation, experience and equipment (clothes). In an emergency someone may or may not be there to save your life.
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Re: HST Good Loops for Backpacking Mid March?

Postby The hermit » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:40 pm

Nothing against anyone who posts on here.welcome one and all.its about education I learn every time.a few sticky notes on the basic skills can't hurt.(bear safety, LNT, solo travel, first aid, navigation, ul hiking)I would brush up on those topics year after year.
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