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bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby DAVELA » Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:31 am

just wondering, in winter can i leave food in car or do i have to store in trailhead bearboxes? ive never had a prob in winter with this but am wondering if rules have changed...the bears are hibernating afterall.



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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby jessegooddog » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:52 am

I have seen fresh bear tracks in the snow when hiking no higher than 9000 feet on the east side in December.
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby paul » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:16 pm

I've never left any significant food overnight at a winter trailhead. I'd just rather not take a chance. I have left empty coolers, which I have always hidden from view just in case the local bears are familiar with the Coleman product line.
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby DAVELA » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:40 am

thanks i just got back from my trip to the eastside...lots of snow....the range looks so dramatic in white
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby rlown » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:07 pm

Glad you're back safe. What did you decide to do with your food though?

Just a thread wrap-up thing.

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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby dave54 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:21 pm

DAVELA wrote:...the bears are hibernating afterall.


A minor point. Bears do not hibernate. Well, it is not true hibernation.

In true hibernation the bodies metabolism slows down dramatically. Heart slows to a few beats per minute, breathing to a 1-2 breaths per minute, core temperature drops. Small mammals hibernate.

Bears don't do that. They just sleep. It is basically just a normal deep sleep. Bears will awaken frequently during the winter and go forage for food, then return to the den for more sleep. (sort of like my teenage nephew).

At the lower elevations, or in the So Cal mountains, bears may stay active all year. It mostly depends on the severity of the winter and availability of food.

Only an anally retentive purist would make a big deal and post the correct terminology, though. :D
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby rlown » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:30 pm

as the bear was active last year under Markskor's condo, i concur.

Just use a bearcan anyway. and report DaveLA on what you did with your food.
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby DAVELA » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:09 am

i didnt bring a bear can with me but i put my food in the storage locker at big pine creek.When i returned i noticed someone neatly packed their garbage and put it next to my food in the locker.I swear they need to put webcams at all trailheads to catch these geniuses.
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby DoyleWDonehoo » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:42 am

dave54 wrote:Bears do not hibernate. Well, it is not true hibernation.


More to the point Black Bears do not physiologically hibernate. Other bears, like the Polar Bear do, and it is a whole different thing to physiologically hibernate.
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Re: bearcans not required at trailheads in winter right?

Postby jmherrell » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:34 am

The study of bear denning in winter caused the term hibernation to be redefined. The important thing is whether they are in their dens or not. During the drought of the late 80's and early 90's the Yosemite rangers reported some bears around Tuolumne Meadows spent so little time hibernating that they starved -- so better lock up your food year-round.
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